vg|Computer World Bridge Championships,Segment 4_4,I,1,16,Jack,48,Wbridge5,86| rs|3CE=,3CE=,3NS=,3NS+1,3SN=,3SN=,4HN+3,4HN+2,5CN-1,5DN-1,6CE=,6CE=,3NW+2,3NW+2,2CS=,3DWx-3,7NW=,6HW+1,5SSx+2,4SS+3,5CEx=,5HNx=,1NW+1,1NW+1,4SN=,4SS=,6SN-1,4SS+1,3CS=,2NS+1,4SN+1,2HW-1| pn|Jack,Wbridge5,Jack,Wbridge5,Wbridge5,Jack,Wbridge5,Jack|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S985HQ74DAT84CT74,SKQ42HJ65DKQ9CQ98,SAT763HKT93DJ7CK3,SJHA82D6532CAJ652|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Good morning and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Final segment of 16 boards from the Computer World Championships|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Jack (Netherlands) vs. Wbridge5 (France)|pg|| nt|mrdct: player's just going over their pre-alerts?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Al Levy from USA, the organizer of these championships|pg|| nt|sartre: Hello all in the Open Room. This is the account of Al Levy, to be used by commentators.|pg|| nt|sartre: We are here in rainy Estoril, Portugal.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I guess the contestants need a cup of coffee before they start|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Or is it oil?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: they eat memory wafers, I am told|pg|| nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|sartre: Our first guest commentator will be Stephen Smith of Bridge Baron.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: WB5 does well to balance here.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I agree, but 3@C would not be everyone's choice|pg|| pc|s5|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: WBridge5 took a surprising 86 to 48 IMP lead after the first three quarters.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Through two 16-board sets of the 64-board final, WBridge5 led 45 to 44 IMPs.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The auction was exactly the same in the closed room|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: In the third quarter, WB5 put up a 41 to 4 margin and started dreaming of an upset.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Jack is the four-time defending champion.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We are watching the Computer World Championships. Final 16-board segment of the final|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d2|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: With the AD and the KC onside, not much drama in this contract.|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: At some point we will see if computers claim|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c8|nt|mrdct: has to pick trumps|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: Piece of cake|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: well done|pg|| nt|Walddk2: also making at the other table|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S985HQ74DAT84CT74,SKQ42HJ65DKQ9CQ98,SAT763HKT93DJ7CK3,SJHA82D6532CAJ652|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 9 match ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are David Probert, Sweden, Michael Rosenberg, USA, Michael Barel, Israel, Sergey Kustarov, Russia, Marcin Lesniewski, Poland, and Frans Jeunen, Belgium. I am ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|davpro: Evening all|pg|| nt|frenske: hi all|pg|| nt|mich-b: Hi all , good evening|pg|| nt|dinos1: hello everybody|pg|| nt|scotty: hi|pg|| nt|mich-b: Both these teams seem to be struggling at this stage of the tournament|pg|| nt|lesniak: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Poland much more than USA1|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Poland in a very disappointing 19th place out of 22 at this point|pg|| nt|mich-b: Well , I am sure USA1 are not very pleased with their position at the table , so far|pg|| nt|scotty: Poland is not fielding what would be considered their strongest team - a lot of big names are missing I think|pg|| nt|mich-b: the first 8 qualify for the 1/4 finals|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Estoril.05/Estoril.htm is the link to the official web site with much useful info such as participants, results and bulletins|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|scotty: After S preempts in hearts, E-W slam is pretty good - in fact 7@d can be made, though it would be a triumph just to reach and make 6 (@d or @c)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: EW are definitely the most experienced of the Polish pairs|pg|| nt|mich-b: Perhaps the same can be said about NS too :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Indeed|pg|| nt|lesniak: Jassem-Martens are plying 2 dif system depending on vulnerabilyty|pg|| nt|mich-b: They are not lacking in experience either|pg|| nt|mich-b: Is this a new partnership , Marcin?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Action soon, they are just about to finish board 2 in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There is usually a 2-board delay between the 2 rooms|pg|| nt|lesniak: when vuln Thay play WJ(Polish club) ,strong club not vulner|pg|| nt|davpro: it could take a few minutes before they start. How many @h will S bid?|pg|| nt|mich-b: 4|pg|| nt|davpro: 1,3,4|pg|| nt|dinos1: interestin, I thought they play nat when vul :)|pg|| nt|lesniak: thay started to play togother just 1 year ago|pg|| nt|dinos1: I guess 4@h will be bid|pg|| nt|davpro: what will theopening be? NT range here?|pg|| nt|mich-b: I am with you , Sergei :)|pg|| nt|scotty: I think it is 12-14 here|pg|| nt|davpro: Then 1NT|pg|| nt|lesniak: sure|pg|| nt|dinos1: strong @c, so weak nt|pg|| nt|mich-b: We may have the same auction as in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 10 match from the ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Liz McGowan, Scotland, Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Roger Bryant, England, Tim Bourke, Australia, and David Probert, Sweden. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|davpro: good morning all|pg|| nt|roghog: Hi folks|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Good morning|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you Roland:)) good morning everybody!!|pg|| nt|timb: good evening everyone |pg|| nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Afternoon anywhere?|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|Walddk2: India I guess|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Important note to the commentators:|pg|| nt|Walddk2: East is a S H E|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sofia Pessoa|pg|| nt|cuttysark: and a very fine player|pg|| nt|davpro: I always call them S,W,N and E and do not bother about the genderthing :-)|pg|| nt|hedyg: NS are playing 2/1 with 15/17 nt|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Wonder if SHE can pick up an imp by cashing 2 aces?|pg|| nt|davpro: He is west...SHE is east...|pg|| nt|hedyg: the lead aginst 4@h(not @s) was a small @h|pg|| nt|roghog: 5th vs 6th here, with 8 to qualify|pg|| nt|hedyg: it was played by S after a 1nt opening|pg|| nt|davpro: and Sweden are on place 543624 now (it feel like that anyway) :-(|pg|| nt|hedyg: pls note that on a @c lead and @d switch 4@h is -1|pg|| nt|roghog: ...if you guess @d|pg|| nt|hedyg: i think we have wait till 2 boards have been played in the other room?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Play will start as soon as they finish board 2 in the closed room. Won't be long|pg|| nt|hedyg: no Roger, you lose 1@d(if you guess right) 2@cc and 1@s|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Doesn't help to guess diamonds|pg|| nt|roghog: yes, 2 down if misguess|pg|| nt|davpro: I think he ment that it is at least 1 down...|pg|| nt|hedyg: so making 4@h +2 is quite a result!|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh yes!! sry|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Surprised North did not open 1@H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: China and Portugal are 5th and 6th placed |pg|| nt|cuttysark: Betr Fu does|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Portugal have done particularly well|pg|| nt|davpro: That looks lika a 1NT opening to me|pg|| nt|hedyg: in 4 @s with @c lead you get a @h swutch, A@s @h ruff @d and @h ruff|pg|| nt|hedyg: switch even|pg|| nt|Walddk2: All 3 series, Bermuda Bowl (open), Venice Cup (women) and Seniors Bowl have 22 nations. They play a complete round-robin after which the 8 best advance to the quarter-finals|pg|| nt|cuttysark: I agree - if you play a weak NT!|pg|| nt|hedyg: Portugal got to play as hosting nation?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Right|pg|| nt|roghog: I hate opening 1NT with a good M, but such is life...|pg|| nt|hedyg: they are doing far better than anybody expected!|pg|| nt|Zmud99: here we go..|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Seniors here, open room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Carol Simon and Henry Bethe, USA, Martin Wüst, Germany, Jon Sveindal, Norway, and Hedy Grey, Switzerland. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|desert: Hi all :-)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Roland:)) hello everybody!|pg|| nt|csimon: welcome everyone|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hi all:)|pg|| nt|henryb: Good Morning|pg|| nt|jbgood: some names in this room!!|pg|| nt|hedyg: i believe we have to wait for the CR to finish 2 boards first|pg|| nt|henryb: In a strange twist, Garozzo is playing American style while his opponents are strong clubbers|pg|| nt|desert: its always a special pleasure to watch Garozzo play :-) Here we can expect a very interesting match against the very strong US Team|pg|| nt|csimon: it's good to see that we have 4 tables in action now!|pg|| nt|henryb: good morning Carol|pg|| nt|hedyg: Garozzo/de Falco have been practicing on BBO for months now much to the pleasure of the kibbitzer|pg|| nt|csimon: good to 'see' you Henry @h|pg|| nt|Zmud99: We will start here in 10mns 43s exactly...|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW are playing a strong @c and 14-17 nt|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Hervé|pg|| nt|hedyg: NS are playing 4 card @d, 15-17 nt and their very own system!|pg|| nt|hedyg: for all those who would like to get the players systems: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg|| nt|hedyg: on the Garozzo/de Falco CC keep winding down to get all pages|pg|| nt|desert: the north south system is probably influenced by Garozzos "Ambra", the one he wrote for the italian Juniors in 2000|pg|| nt|csimon: it's more fun to play 'guess what that bid means' :)))|pg|| nt|hedyg: very much so, but many changes have been made|pg|| nt|hedyg: we dont have to guess lol|pg|| nt|jbgood: I first saw Garozzo in a championship in 75 (Brighton - Europeans) and he was a thrill to watch. Even away from the table he was able to gather big crowds - for example in the ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: lobby of the hotel where play took place - when he was down on his knees praying for "2 2's" in a backgammon game against the late Irving Rose:)|pg|| nt|csimon: especially when you've woken up at 5:00AM to do this - reading tiny print on CC's is a drag :)|pg|| nt|desert: in the closed room north south got lucky that East didnt find a reopening X after 2 He pass pass....;-)|pg|| nt|desert: That contract would have been at least 2 down and West has an obvious pass.....|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 12 match ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are John Swanson and Henry Bethe, USA, R Krishnan, India, Gerben Dirksen, Netherlands, and Victor Silverstone, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The names will change, don't worry|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You will have to wait a little. The closed room must have finished 2 boards first|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hi henry- long time since you lived in London and we played your system|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome John, Gerben and Victor|pg|| nt|gerben42: NS play an unusual system, but very natural - 1-level is 14+ natural and forcing , 2-level 10 - 13 natural|pg|| nt|gerben42: only thing is 1@C might be 2 cards|pg|| nt|henryb: Good Afternoon, all|pg|| nt|gerben42: the links to the convention cards:|pg|| nt|gerben42: http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/nystrom-bertheau.pdf|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hello Henry|pg|| nt|gerben42: http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hello again Henry-|pg|| nt|gerben42: be sure to download only once, the site will block if a zillion people download it|pg|| nt|henryb: Hi Victor|pg|| nt|swanson: Hello all!|pg|| nt|henryb: In the other room S opened an offshape 14-16 1NT|pg|| nt|gerben42: hi John|pg|| nt|henryb: Hi John|pg|| nt|gerben42: here Nunes will open a natural but forcing 1@D|pg|| nt|odysseus69: without any system knowledge I am sure they will land in 4S|pg|| nt|swanson: The opening bid provided an easy route to 4@S.|pg|| nt|henryb: North tried an invitational 3S and S raised|pg|| nt|gerben42: might go 1@D 1@S 2@D 2@S 4@S or so|pg|| nt|gerben42: if the link for the CC does not work you might also try http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg|| nt|odysseus69: only the overtrick is at stake-10 tricks favourite|pg|| nt|gerben42: I hear that USA2 played 2@D here|pg|| nt|gerben42: Fantunes won't since Nunes will have promised more for his 1@D|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no bidding prize for USA 2|pg|| nt|gerben42: 2 scores in from closed, should get going now :)|pg|| nt|gerben42: three even|pg|| nt|odysseus69: if playing weak 2s does north qualify?|pg|| nt|gerben42: depends who is my partner, but they dont play it anyway|pg|| nt|gerben42: without any agreements I'd say no|pg|| nt|odysseus69: academic question while we wait|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Good morning/afternoon and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 13 match ...|pg|| nt|Walddk3: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Your commentators are Bill Jacobs and Nick Fahrer, Australia, Liz McGowan, Scotland, György Szalay, Hungary, and Roger Bryant, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome all|pg|| nt|roghog: Hi folks|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Morning!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and it's good evening from me|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome back everyone and sorry|pg|| nt|szalay: rehi|pg|| nt|nickf: Welcome back everyone|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We haven't missed anything though|pg|| nt|nickf: This match promises to be a real treat|pg|| nt|szalay: early @D switch sets 4@S|pg|| nt|nickf: two of the best pairs in the world|pg|| nt|szalay: by East, of course|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Closed room needs to have completed 2 boards first before we start here|pg|| nt|roghog: Yes. Sadek & El Ahmady are a world class pair. They have played throughout so far here|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, a diamond has to be led by East, before the defence get off lead|pg|| nt|bjacobs: In the Closed Room, that was achieved at trick 1|pg|| nt|szalay: better soon than never:-)|pg|| nt|szalay: italians prefer lead from empty, short suit|pg|| nt|nickf: they are still bidding bd 2 in the closed|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Start we will start in a few...interviews of players here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|szalay: its strange and probably wont played, but 3N has some chance imho|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Both pairs play a form of standard|pg|| nt|Walddk2: All 3 series, Bermuda Bowl (open), Venice Cup (women) and Seniors Bowl have 22 nations. They play a complete round-robin after which the 8 best advance to the quarter-finals|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is round 13 of 21, 1st against 2nd'|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2nd against 1st rather :-)|pg|| nt|nickf: Egypt have done very well so far this week.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So have Italy|pg|| nt|roghog: Italy are 2-1 at Betfair. Any takers?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: So we are past half way and some teams are running out of time....|pg|| nt|Zmud99: here we go|pg|| nt|szalay: i bet against them|pg|| nt|nickf: really ?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: For tje odds?|pg|| nt|nickf: who do you like gyorgy ?|pg|| nt|szalay: sure..i love big money|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Did you bet on anther team?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 16 boards in the round-robin, this is a round ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 14 match from the Venice Vup (women)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are David Bird, England, Tommy Sanders, Carol Simon, USA, and Povl Sommer, Denmark. I am Roland Wald, also from Denmark|pg|| nt|tsanders: welcome all and hi to alll co-commentators|pg|| nt|csimon: welcome everyone!|pg|| nt|sommer: hi and wlc all:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: WE have here both teams, strongly favored to qualify, with either team capable of winnning it all.|pg|| nt|csimon: we are about to watch 2 of the the pre-tournament favorites so this should be a terrific match|pg|| nt|csimon: sorry to sound like a parrot, Tommy :(|pg|| nt|tsanders: I call that "great minds" lol|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg|| nt|csimon: welcome David :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi Carol. Are you feeling in good form?|pg|| nt|csimon: as good as can be for 6AM :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: That's good. I will leave all tricky analysis to you.|pg|| nt|csimon: I'll pass that on to Tommy and Povl :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: The Chinese women have 3 pairs in the top 7, on the cross-IMPing. A fine effort.|pg|| nt|sommer: ..starting with this one .. where 2@S is the limit for NS, but hard to stop there|pg|| nt|csimon: perhaps EW can outbid NS|pg|| nt|tsanders: 3nt is a good contract without a @c lead|pg|| nt|brolucius: At the other table North opened 1@H and made a Support Double when West entered the auction.|pg|| nt|csimon: looks like they make 3@c|pg|| nt|sommer: 3@C should be down|pg|| nt|csimon: sorry - yes 5 losers|pg|| nt|brolucius: Playing Precision Club, a sequence of 1@C - 2@S (3-6 points, six card suit) might allow you to stop in a part score.|pg|| nt|sommer: at least with a trumppromotion:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Heather Dhondy and Nicola Smith are England's top pair, so far, in the cross-IMPing. |pg|| nt|tsanders: In Precision, as it used to be, N would bid 1@c and S, 2@s|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nicola is our top-ranked player, at 24th in the world. She was much higher, back in GB's glory days.|pg|| nt|csimon: don't listen to anything I say until my 2nd cup of coffee|pg|| nt|tsanders: I believe all Chinese pairs play Precision. there is a reason for that|pg|| nt|brolucius: I think the Open Room always waits to start, so there will be comparisons from the Closed Room.|pg|| nt|csimon: they play 2 bds in the closed room 1st|pg|| nt|brolucius: China is way ahead of the Women's Round Robin. People have been saying that their 'time would come'. It seems that it has come.|pg|| nt|tsanders: Kathy Wei ( Wei-Sender now) made many trips to China after the cultural revolution to promote bridge|pg|| nt|brolucius: England beat them in the 3rd-4th place play-off in the last Olympiad, to get the bronze medals.|pg|| nt|tsanders: naturally Wei taught them her system and they still play it, and play it very well|pg|| nt|brolucius: Simon Cocheme tells me that the England Open team made 3NT on the N-S cards (!). After a diamond lead.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 15 match ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Carol Simon and John Swanson, USA, Victor Silverstone, England, Frans Jeunen, Belgium, and Michael Barel, Israel. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|Vugraph800: play will start in about 15 mns ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hello to Carol, Victor and Frans|pg|| nt|frenske: hello everybody|pg|| nt|csimon: welcome everyone|pg|| nt|mich-b: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And welcome Michael|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hello from me|pg|| nt|csimon: hi me :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to John Swanson|pg|| nt|swanson: Good morning (where I am).|pg|| nt|csimon: I guess you don't do the 6AM sessions John :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: interesting 3nt on first - easy seeing 4 hands but pitfalls- |pg|| nt|swanson: Even this one is pushing it a bit.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|Walddk2: sure, at 18:34 on the right side of the pond|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Carol thinks pond is cute|pg|| nt|csimon: big pond :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: the hackets play strong nt and 4 card majors - they canape with 4 major and longer minor- open all balanced 11s|pg|| nt|csimon: N is endplayed on opening lead, so 3nt gets a little easier|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I thought 4-card majors were dead and buried|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe not in Acol-land|pg|| nt|frenske: on this deal N will open 2@d weak with majors|pg|| nt|odysseus69: play of diamond suit is critical - small from hand to 9 and king - and all well|pg|| nt|frenske: sorry 2h! weak with majors|pg|| nt|csimon: if N opens 2@d, declarer has a roadmap|pg|| nt|frenske: 2@h|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They need to have played 2 boards in the closed room first before we start here|pg|| nt|csimon: ok, 2@h|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Could take about 10 minutes|pg|| nt|odysseus69: an opening showing majors will be a give-away|pg|| nt|odysseus69: however -even against silent correct technique wins day|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bidding board 2 in the closed room now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: even after ace and diamond to K -will still be ok after ace and a club to J and queen|pg|| nt|Zmud99: interviews of players here in the rama|pg|| nt|Zmud99: we just learn from Chen that "Mitsubishi" means 3@D|pg|| nt|csimon: that explains the logo|pg|| nt|odysseus69: to sum up I make my first wrong prediction - 3NT making - |pg|| nt|csimon: is the CEO of Mitsubishi a bridge player?|pg|| nt|swanson: After 14 rounds, Japan is 'on the bubble' to qualify; England needs a couple of big wins to make it. (7 rounds remain)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: against silent - assuming heart lead and Ace and another diamond- declarer will play on spades |pg|| nt|Zmud99: here we go ...|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but if he gets spades wrong will still be OK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: in short - easy 3NT|pg|| nt|mich-b: Hi all , nice to see you again!|pg|| nt|csimon: good morning everyone !|pg|| nt|jtr: Germany are improving after a poorish start are they not?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sabine Auken - Daniela von Arnim, arguably the best woman pair in the world|pg|| nt|mich-b: Germany are currently 3rd|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, their 3rd pair doing very well and now best of the 3 in the Butler ranking|pg|| nt|csimon: and Canada is almost on the bubble in 7th|pg|| nt|davpro: Hi all|pg|| nt|mich-b: and realistically , can already feel assured of a place in the 1/4 final|pg|| nt|jtr: Things can happen Look at USA-Netherlands|pg|| nt|mich-b: sure ... but nobody would bet against Germany qualifying|pg|| nt|csimon: yes, David - that is hard to look at and don't remind Fred of it!|pg|| nt|jtr: wasnt sure if it was 1 or 2|pg|| nt|csimon: was 2 :((|pg|| nt|mich-b: Meanwhile we can have a look at the auction in the closed room (board 1)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Expensive board for the Canadians perhaps|pg|| nt|mich-b: EW already passed out 2@H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Michael Rosenberg, USA, John Stewart, Canada, Melih Ozdil, Turkey, and R Krishnan, India. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 19 match from the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Bill Jacobs, Tim Bourke, Australia, Steve Eginton, Jeffrey Allerton, England, and Gerben Dirksen, Netherlands. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|gerben42: good morning everyone|pg|| nt|jallerton: Hello everybody|pg|| nt|eggy: Good morning|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|eggy: Last day of qualifying should be exciting ...|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes very close|pg|| nt|eggy: with only Italy safe and at least 15 teams in with some chance|pg|| nt|bjacobs: N/S are playing some sort of Polish club|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Right, Argentina currently in 10th, Sweden in 14th place|pg|| nt|bjacobs: E/W are playing some sort of strong club|pg|| nt|eggy: You will notice that am being optimistic about the 15th of those.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Both with a good chance of qualifying, but this match is obviously crucial for both teams|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|gerben42: NS play Swedish @C, 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 16+|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 17+ |pg|| nt|timb: Interesting heart suit here. Best for three tricks is to lead @HJ. When West covers with the king, win the ace and lead low, intending to finesse the @H8 when East follows with the ...|pg|| nt|timb: seven.|pg|| nt|gerben42: their CC is one of the most elaborate in the event, so I think a compliment is in place there|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Play in this room will not start until 2 boards have been completed in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They just finished board 1|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The Swedish CC is certainly the biggest I have downloaded! 555 Kb|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Does that make it the best?|pg|| nt|gerben42: anyone know who so far is the youngest player in the KO of the Bermuda Bowl ever? Madala, if he qualifies, may take that record|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, but the most comprehensive, Bill :-)|pg|| nt|gerben42: well everything is on it|pg|| nt|jallerton: Swedes can also open 1@c on 11-16 3-suiters with short @d|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I see it's copyrighted|pg|| nt|gerben42: Madala is just 18 years old but has already played many international events|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, so you will be fined for downloading it obviously|pg|| nt|gerben42: commentators downloading it will have to send half their pay to NS|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Madala and Lambardi changing seat|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 70% actually. Not sure Bill knew that|pg|| nt|eggy: means that you have to get a licence from the Swedes to play it|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Lindkvist actually : (C) 2003 Magnus Lindkvist|pg|| nt|eggy: I wonder of that means|pg|| nt|gerben42: this CC is brought to you by (some Swedish furniture giant) ?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: IKEA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You have them in Britain too I believe, and certainly in Denmark and Norway|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Worldwide I would think|pg|| nt|eggy: Is it delivered in a flat pack, missing the screws?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: :)|pg|| nt|jallerton: Yes, the IKEA experience is famous in Britain|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Exactly. "Do it yourself, whether you can or not" is the philosophy|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Who is our expert on Spanish among the commentators?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|scotty: Very likely|pg|| nt|szalay: do u give me 3:1 for Egypt?|pg|| nt|nickf: 2-1 seems a fair price|pg|| nt|cuttysark: USA?|pg|| nt|roghog: Engalnd hve been sandbagging to improve their odds :-)|pg|| nt|nickf: I dont think either USA team will win|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Ho Ho Ho|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They could have dropped it in a partscore but pushed the Germans to game|pg|| nt|mich-b: but then got another chance and bid the game|pg|| mb|p|nt|mich-b: Here we go !|pg|| nt|hedyg: good morning Hervé:))|pg|| nt|gerben42: here goes!|pg|| nt|szalay: yes, I payed all my money for USA...but betfair doesnt accept Hungaria cards and thats sad|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Not fair at all|pg|| nt|nickf: you'll have to join the common market|pg|| nt|brolucius: And................. they're off!|pg|| nt|swanson: SHows 4+@H, 4+@S, 0-10 HCP|pg|| nt|csimon: who is in love with South's 3@d bid?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: seguro que tu coincidiste tambien aqui se llama lucci take that|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Hope our operator will shut down and re-open|pg|| nt|eggy: That was quick, no PO in the other room then|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There is indeed Steve|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1NT = Game Force|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: however martens may rise to 6|pg|| nt|henryb: I'm not clear that N should bid again after 1D-1S - 2D|pg|| nt|cuttysark: European Union, Nick, you'rs living in the past|pg|| nt|szalay: we joined already:-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Looks like reverse Bergen|pg|| nt|csimon: the importance of getting in the auction with the W hand at all costs is the result of that @d lead vs 3nt|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes|pg|| nt|swanson: Jason is a bit strong for a simple 3NT.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|jtr: Not South anymore:-)|pg|| nt|csimon: lol :))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: NS play Precision, EW naturalish 2/1|pg|| nt|mich-b: Honestly , I wouldn't blame South too much|pg|| nt|henryb: North is allowed to have an opening bid|pg|| nt|jtr: But East should have raised immediately|pg|| nt|jallerton: They are still playing board 2 in CR!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: (That bit's copyrighted)|pg|| nt|gerben42: will they reach 4@H or 3NT? |pg|| nt|glen2: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: hello all|pg|| nt|mcphee: hi folks|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: sorry the delay|pg|| nt|eggy: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: I will insert the name of the players asap|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Limit with 4-card support|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Heather Dhondy in the West seat is one of our regular vugraph commentators. Fine player, skillful commentator|pg|| mb|3C|nt|scotty: I doubt it|pg|| nt|cuttysark: That is an ugly 1NT rebid|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I raise to 2@S, but that's me|pg|| nt|davpro: At the other table N passed|pg|| nt|timb: that North hand looks more like a pass than a 1@H opening|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Me too - the diamond stopper is too thin!|pg|| nt|gerben42: Nunes has promised 14 - 17 for 2@D|pg|| nt|odysseus69: whats wrong with 2s|pg|| nt|henryb: But I would bid 2S with South hand|pg|| nt|sommer: this was unexpected|pg|| nt|tsanders: with S known to have < 5 hcp, pass is reasonable for N|pg|| nt|brolucius: I thought North would contest with a take-out double|pg|| nt|mich-b: and it is very rare for opps who stopped in a partscore to change their mind and bid game|pg|| nt|ozdil: Hi all|pg|| nt|eggy: nice gentle hand to calm the nerves|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: perfect hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: their CC says about 1@h opening 5+ and "can be light":)|pg|| nt|swanson: Seems to treading a mighty thin line to pass 2@D rather than bidding 2@S.|pg|| nt|gerben42: big difference to 11 - 15 in USA2 auction|pg|| nt|henryb: Yes, and N has a misfitting 9|pg|| nt|brolucius: Egypt are still flying high in a magnificent second place. They have surprised everyone with their marvellous performance.|pg|| nt|desert: hi all welcome everybody|pg|| mb|p|nt|mich-b: Don't think so - he has no idea if 5@C was bid to make or to save|pg|| nt|scotty: but partner may be saving!|pg|| nt|lesniak: no,Martens had no idea what 5 clubs was|pg|| nt|hedyg: unexpected X by E|pg|| nt|odysseus69: oops- my last prediction|pg|| nt|swanson: Tough to find another descriptive bid, though.|pg|| nt|csimon: certainly - as Gordon did here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|scotty: hi|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| nt|ozdil: Hi all|pg|| nt|kista: Hi all Welcome|pg|| nt|mcphee: seems like this is a good save as 4@S was making|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: so did I|pg|| nt|sommer: yes|pg|| nt|sommer: they might stop in 2@S then|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not a great bidding board for the Chinese, to sell out to an 8-card fit at the two-level when they have a 9-card fit.|pg|| pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: Wrong team names|pg|| nt|davpro: I agree on the 1NT rebid - you will end up in the right game (but sometimes the wrong partscore)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s raise by me too|pg|| nt|jbgood: well he's got the umbid suit and is limited by his pass|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Inevitable contrac|pg|| nt|gerben42: 2@C = any 4441 or 4@D 5@C|pg|| nt|eggy: presumably 2D shows hearts|pg|| nt|gerben42: 2@D another relay|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I would say 3NT, but it's not copyrighted. You are allowed to say the same|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 2@C = 4@D (either 5@D or 4441)|pg|| nt|gerben42: 3@C = 1444|pg|| nt|bjacobs: (Reference 68)|pg|| nt|gerben42: so distribution now kow|pg|| nt|gerben42: known|pg|| nt|eggy: If they copyright 3Nt, does that stop the opponents using it?|pg|| nt|gerben42: no opps may use it if they pay some IMPs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature USA2 vs. Brazil (15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York) and USA1 vs. Italy (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York). Both matches from the Bermuda Bowl ... ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and if we are lucky, perhaps a bonus match |pg|| nt|gerben42: distribution is known, and since probably won't find out about @SQ singleton he might try 4@H also|pg|| nt|timb: i thought only old comedians used tired jokes - I was wrong...|pg|| nt|Zmud99: we are lucky i promess|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Given that 1@D is 11-16, I don't know why South is tanking|pg|| nt|gerben42: he is trying to give us comparisons for next boards|pg|| nt|jallerton: Deciding between 3NT & 41H|pg|| nt|jallerton: 4@h|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Two possible reasons I suppose|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes 3NT or 4@H |pg|| nt|eggy: Any bets on which board we will overtake the closed room?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: At this rate?|pg|| nt|jallerton: never at this rate|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: Don't agree David|pg|| nt|hedyg: Weichsel has passed already so Sontag wont get excited|pg|| nt|henryb: Peter has both minors and competetive values|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but last chance to play there -and minors may be badly placed|pg|| pc|sA|nt|csimon: and they won't even go plus here|pg|| nt|henryb: I like Lee's action of bidding 1S better than pass.|pg|| nt|mich-b: I am not too happy about South's PASS of 1@D here|pg|| nt|csimon: and perhaps W should not have had such an easy entry into the auction the 1st round|pg|| nt|henryb: Especially opposite potentially short diamonds|pg|| nt|mich-b: NV , bidding a major at the 1 level is often a good idea|pg|| nt|jtr: Chances on @hK making a trick?|pg|| nt|csimon: not like Von Arnim to EVER pass !|pg|| nt|eggy: I think he will opt for 3NT|pg|| nt|mcphee: a quick 1 down and on to the next hand|pg|| nt|desert: this will be a very interesting match with a lot at stake......Egypt will try to hold its good place and India is 8th at the moment.....|pg|| nt|mcphee: our operator will insert player names when time permits|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hT|nt|hedyg: i have a system that allows my partner to ask me with what i raised to 2@s|pg|| nt|timb: 480 is looking a superb result now|pg|| nt|szalay: tough choice by Versace|pg|| nt|nickf: wasnt a bad lead|pg|| nt|szalay: just switch minor aces|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's makeable double dummy now, but there is no reason why he should|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Still not home|pg|| nt|bjacobs: realistically, the contract is still down on a club back|pg|| nt|nickf: just not a winning lead|pg|| nt|szalay: and why not @D switch now?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Or a spade back|pg|| nt|bjacobs: To make, declarer will have to finesse the clubs, to eradicate West's trumps|pg|| nt|bjacobs: if that makes any sense!|pg|| nt|timb: it's probably a tank trying to remember something like "where did I park my car"|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 3@S not in the notes, so free for anyone to use|pg|| nt|jallerton: South has relayed, North has shown a 1444 shape|pg|| nt|eggy: Is that buck passing do you think?|pg|| nt|gerben42: probably buck passing|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, "let partner make the final error" is a splendid rule|pg|| nt|gerben42: or might be asking min / max|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hedyg: yes better and better|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Most pairs have a relay after 1x 1MA ; 2MA to find out about 3 or 4-card support .... and shape/strength|pg|| nt|cuttysark: 11 imps to start. Nice!|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes Roland,i believe that is more and more popular|pg|| nt|hedyg: Q@s would work better here|pg|| nt|desert: this lead doesnt exaktly terrify declarer...|pg|| nt|gerben42: there goes the @C trick|pg|| nt|swanson: I predict that it is not your last prediction.|pg|| nt|swanson: The big drawback of these light distributional opening bids is that, if you don't buy the contract, the declarer is playing almost double dummy.|pg|| nt|csimon: very slim imho|pg|| nt|jallerton: 3NT = singleton honour?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|davpro: But if you support with xxx will that not make P not bidding his suits? (with Axxx or something similiar)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Clear as mud|pg|| nt|ozdil: I think we can start with 7 SP...|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|hedyg: best lead for sure!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: eradicate, hmmmm how many times a day do you use that word?|pg|| nt|mich-b: Maybe it was better to cash the @DK first|pg|| nt|csimon: now zero|pg|| nt|brolucius: The top 16 teams in the Open event have realistic dreams of qualifying for the knock-out stage. This may be the most exciting day of the tournament.|pg|| pc|h7|nt|timb: technically the relay should be the step but always using 2NT has its advantages too|pg|| nt|desert: exactly|pg|| nt|odysseus69: my lips are buttoned|pg|| nt|henryb: In other room after same lead, HA, DK, HK, club|pg|| nt|gerben42: I predict a flat board|pg|| nt|szalay: what did I say?|pg|| pc|h6|nt|timb: the pause marks South with @DK for West|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@H 1@S ; 2@S 2NT = relay, at least invitational, tell me more partner|pg|| nt|hedyg: strange no @h switch|pg|| nt|timb: that may come later|pg|| nt|roghog: kept wanting to bid 2NT nat when I played it|pg|| nt|hedyg: will get 1 less ruff|pg|| nt|Walddk2: On board 1 yesterday morning we had a 17 IMP swing. I am sure you recall if you were here|pg|| nt|hedyg: "played" Roger?|pg|| nt|davpro: but one more @c|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 7@H = in one room, 7@H -1 in the other|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Gives South a nasty guess early - good idea in a long match|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes probably equivalent|pg|| nt|roghog: gave it up, Hedy :-)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolll|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok|pg|| nt|cuttysark: SO first blood to Egypt|pg|| nt|frenske: the best spot was 3@h dbl but will be t/o|pg|| nt|mich-b: to prevent losing to the singleton 10 or 9|pg|| nt|jtr: 2 chances|pg|| nt|henryb: Certainly not after SK turns up in South|pg|| nt|jtr: slim and none:-)|pg|| nt|gerben42: I found out what it was: 3@S = range ask blackwood|pg|| nt|gerben42: 3NT = minimum|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting gadget|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jack2001: Welcome to the fin al 16 boards of the computer bridge 2005 final|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: oh oh!|pg|| nt|jbgood: if he ever was terrified:)|pg|| nt|gerben42: we need Joey for this one|pg|| nt|gerben42: Joey = Joey Silver, he always says "Next!"|pg|| nt|jallerton: quite common in relay auctions, Roland|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I searched for "Blackwood" in the notes ... 0 matches|pg|| nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| nt|brolucius: South was 'out of range' for any action on her hand, so the responsibility lay with North to contest.|pg|| nt|eggy: Same for the F system, I'm sure|pg|| pc|h4|nt|hedyg: now?|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer is probably decided whether to cash the trump ace before his discard.|pg|| nt|tsanders: nice defense to no avail|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Steve Eginton from England|pg|| nt|eggy: Hi everryone|pg|| nt|Walddk3: and György Szalay from Hungary|pg|| nt|Walddk3: and Yuval Yener from Israel|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|yuval10: hello all :)|pg|| nt|scotty: DEclarer will win, draw trumps, lead @d to A, get back to hand and lead @dJ. the fall of the 7 allows him to take 12 tricks finessing the 6 later|pg|| nt|csimon: if DeFalco promises to make the same lead, Sontag can go back and bid a game|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I have been using these 2 suited openers for 3 years- all I get is bad results except when I hit a giant mis-fit|pg|| nt|mich-b: This time declarer really has too many resources , so it doesn't matter that much|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone,i was off visiting kingdom come|pg|| nt|ozdil: 5 H shows Q spade and K heart..|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. This is the last match in the round-robin|pg|| nt|mcphee: specs advise me Indai is currently in 4th|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Your commentators are R Krishnan, India, Martin Wüst, Germany, Glen Ashton, Bob McPhee, Canada, and Steve Eginton, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|kista: No in 6th place tied with China|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|mich-b: After a natural 1@D opening from East and 4@H overcall , what would West do ?|pg|| nt|scotty: Declarer can test trumps, and when 3-2 can ruff heart for 13th trick|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good evening to Alexander Petrunin from Russia|pg|| nt|aap00: hi all|pg|| nt|ozdil: hi..|pg|| nt|scotty: If S had @sJxxx, declarer would instead try for diamonds 4-2, or a squeeze|pg|| nt|scotty: N may lead a trump|pg|| pc|h3|nt|szalay: hopw David Burn doesn't read it..he hates 'first blood' a lot|pg|| nt|szalay: hope|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: hmmm|pg|| nt|jtr: Well N/S play strong @c so von Arnim could pass with a 6 count|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: Roger is from England, Hedy. They may have a Labour government, but they are very conservative when it comes to bidding|pg|| nt|frenske: i have stopped playing this!!|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|hedyg: lead 3/5 against nt it seems|pg|| nt|aap00: 2 @s, @h ruff, claim|pg|| nt|scotty: Techincally best to lead low trump to the A, since there isc some chance to make if S has all 5|pg|| nt|aap00: y |pg|| nt|scotty: but maybe wrong on the hand though right on the suit|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|henryb: I predict an imp to Sweden|pg|| nt|odysseus69: not 5 now|pg|| nt|gerben42: I predict that I will make wrong predictions more often|pg|| nt|davpro: Yes, but at the same time what could happen if you bid say...@h?|pg|| nt|henryb: My parents have lived here for 66 years|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|sommer: no, 2@D should make, and we must say China is lucky to lose only 1 imp|pg|| nt|jack2001: WBridge5 plays an extremely strong final sofar and 4 times champ Jack is in problems|pg|| pc|cA|nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|mich-b: Responding on hands like South's is not primarily to get to game|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|odysseus69: I am working on stoppi ng|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Beverly Kraft and husband Eric Kokish are big admirers of the Auken/Von Arnim system and approach, Glen Ashton from Canada tells me|pg|| nt|davpro: It is primarily to keep opps out of a game...:-)|pg|| nt|aap00: @sA, @s will fail if !4-1 & @d 4-2|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|scotty: 7NT could make on a double squeeze, if no @h is led|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jtr: But responding twice gets them into it:-)|pg|| nt|mich-b: more to make it more difficult for the opps to get in, to contest the partscore, or suggest a lead|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|jallerton: Playing safe for his contract|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|dT|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJ94HK43DAKQ2CQJ2,SAHQT9862DT65CK85,ST865HAJ7D87CA943,SKQ732H5DJ943CT76|sv|n|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3NT would be normal here, and few problems on this layout|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2H|nt|mrdct: will make in practice i think|pg|| nt|mrdct: with the nice @s pips|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Will make easily|pg|| nt|al9al9: The ninth annual world computer bridge championship is dedicated to the memory of Alan Truscott...|pg|| nt|mrdct: @cK onside, etc.|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: 2H is natural. 2NT is Lebensohl.|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Walddk2: 3@H probably heart stopper + 4 spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: north going via leb to show 4@s and @h stop|pg|| nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: 3H shows a heart stopper and four spades.|pg|| nt|mrdct: 3@hx may have been inbteresting|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bridge Baron sez is Stephen Smith from Bridge Baron|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: The "real" championships in Estoril will resume in 1 hour and 45 minutes|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Walddk2: USA1 v USA2 (women) in the first segment|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|mrdct: did they pick eachother or were they forced together?|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| nt|al9al9: A team of computers want to challenge some of the teams that didnt qualify|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Forced because they finished 4th and 5th|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJ94HK43DAKQ2CQJ2,SAHQT9862DT65CK85,ST865HAJ7D87CA943,SKQ732H5DJ943CT76|sv|n|nt|scotty: 4N for takeout|pg|| nt|mich-b: How many people play 4NT there as takeout for the minors?|pg|| nt|dinos1: 4n maybe |pg|| nt|lesniak: everybody??|pg|| nt|davpro: I do- but question is if he had both minors|pg|| nt|davpro: or just 1|pg|| nt|scotty: 4N should be takeout over opponents 4M bid, unless we have a fit, or are in a force|pg|| nt|hedyg: i am very impressed that he actually "played" it!!|pg|| nt|roghog: Acol rules OK. Actually, I do play the weird 2@c that these Chinese guys do. Hope it crops up :-)|pg|| nt|jbgood: first 2 drops of blood|pg|| nt|hedyg: as spec pointed out, they lead attitude|pg|| nt|hedyg: would Q@s be a negative lead?|pg|| nt|gerben42: slam time|pg|| nt|swanson: Why not take the safest line possible when some opponents may be playing in 2@D?|pg|| nt|gerben42: Lauria & Versace gave NS a hard time 2@H 4@H|pg|| nt|henryb: That looks more like a weak 2 bid|pg|| nt|cuttysark: He won't be up yet|pg|| nt|nickf: I think there's a scoring error|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Yes - they wrote Passed Out at this table|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, England were too high at the other table, so a near-flat board is reasonable.|pg|| nt|csimon: I'm on my 2nd cup of coffee, so I'm making some sense now :)|pg|| nt|sommer: yes|pg|| nt|sommer: 3NT is better from N's seat here|pg|| nt|frenske: :)|pg|| nt|mich-b: Is there a "standard" opening for East?|pg|| nt|csimon: try artificial 2-bids anonymous|pg|| nt|mich-b: My preference would be 1@D intending to rbid 2@C|pg|| nt|ozdil: For me this play is ok. If he play direct to ace spade can be entry problem if South has JXXX trumps|pg|| nt|aap00: y|pg|| nt|jallerton: East opened 1@h in closed room. Yuk!|pg|| mb|p|nt|mich-b: ask our spectators , how many of them do :)|pg|| nt|davpro: sorry- after a @d 4NT is clearcut...|pg|| nt|hedyg: defense was less than perfect but 10 imps|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: weak NT|pg|| nt|cuttysark: We know better.... |pg|| nt|odysseus69: i think 1C is the Hacket style|pg|| nt|frenske: for me 1@d to|pg|| nt|csimon: or to just plain make a nuisance of yourself|pg|| mb|1N|nt|scotty: Partner opened 1@d we are discussing, so W has both minors|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Also ugly. I open 11 counts, but this??|pg|| nt|davpro: You do not need perfect defense when you find perfect leads...:-)|pg|| nt|csimon: guess so Hedy - it's VERY high :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: No excuses from now on, then, Carol!|pg|| nt|aap00: more slams :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: welcome to the match, should be an interesting one|pg|| nt|hedyg: agree Liz!|pg|| nt|hedyg: no redeeming features|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Do you play 2NT as a sound raise here when there is no cuebid?|pg|| nt|henryb: Likely pass out unless West opens|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)))|pg|| nt|gerben42: no more predictions :)|pg|| nt|henryb: Or 3|pg|| nt|henryb: Might know him -- My father was a Professor of Physics|pg|| nt|gerben42: I guess a limited 1@H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Seems normal to me since it shows 11-16|pg|| mb|2C|nt|lesniak: masrtens would bid 2 clubs|pg|| nt|mich-b: Don't they play Drury?|pg|| nt|gerben42: but I think flat board might be a nice prediction|pg|| nt|swanson: East is sure to raise the ante here.|pg|| nt|gerben42: EW are agressive pair anyway|pg|| nt|gerben42: 4 or 5?|pg|| nt|swanson: Can't bid less than 5.|pg|| nt|gerben42: Mrs. Bertheau is playing in the Venice cup and made 1460 as South|pg|| nt|odysseus69: how about a kid-on 5 minor|pg|| nt|gerben42: 3@S?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: prefer 5C 10|pg|| nt|henryb: Even 6H goes for 1400|pg|| nt|henryb: 5H I mean|pg|| nt|swanson: N-S will make whatever they bid. E-W won't.|pg|| nt|odysseus69: if East is going to try a funny he should it in tempo|pg|| nt|gerben42: might be Nunes thinking|pg|| nt|gerben42: the operator gives us 2 bids at the time, as a click might be heard and give information|pg|| nt|swanson: I prefer a simple 5@H. A phoney minor suit bid would, in theory, indicate a lead. Won't be scaring North.|pg|| nt|henryb: No, unless a strange screen. N&E usually screenmates|pg|| nt|odysseus69: looks like routine 4S bid - or tougher 5 spade bid over 5 any|pg|| nt|swanson: What should SOuth bid over 5@H? A pass should be forcing (in my opinion).|pg|| nt|odysseus69: i like 5H -but not 3S|pg|| nt|gerben42: 3@S was just kidding|pg|| nt|csimon: but impossible to reach by N I would think|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk3: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|lesniak: even when thay play as drury -fit|pg|| nt|scotty: In the other room Meck made a light opening with E of 1@D - for the lead?|pg|| nt|hedyg: i play it as cards|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Ah - 13 of them?|pg|| nt|csimon: this can easily be beaten|pg|| nt|desert: If pd has 9x the lead of the small card is necessary to avoid the blockage of the suit.....but i try to avoid such a spectacular lead as often as possible...|pg|| nt|gerben42: wouldn't guess that|pg|| nt|brolucius: South may prefer 1NT|pg|| nt|mich-b: NS should be able to beat this 3NT easily|pg|| nt|eggy: well if you don't have 1NT available ...|pg|| nt|eggy: India are 6th and need 11 to be sure, Egypt 2nd, but still need 7|pg|| mb|2D|nt|dinos1: I like this stile - 2@c is either fit or nat|pg|| nt|hedyg: like asking pd for his strength|pg|| nt|odysseus69: that says you guys have a slam|pg|| nt|roghog: 5-card majors and phoney @C|pg|| nt|sommer: ..2@D - 2NT?:))|pg|| nt|brolucius: No, 2@D. I was thinking that this rebid has a high upper range, so it might be better to limit the hand.|pg|| nt|mich-b: Spectators point out that 1@H may have been a good option for the Hacketts|pg|| nt|odysseus69: some play 2D as 4-4-4-1 or multi|pg|| nt|swanson: I would like an opponent to start with 1@S to help me out. Any spade bid by an opponent helps the 1-4-4-4 hand.|pg|| nt|mich-b: Yes, but I think the 4441 option should be stronger than this hand - say 19+|pg|| nt|odysseus69: the HS bid NT on next round- not everyones cup of tea- or anyone's?|pg|| nt|mich-b: if you open 2@D with 17 4441 , by the time partner knows where your shortage is , we are often too high|pg|| nt|mich-b: Anyone knows the range of this 2@S for the Hacketts?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Good diamond slam that will fail due to the 4-1 trump break|pg|| nt|aap00: this 1 good but unlucky|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1@C = 11-13, or 11-16 or 17+|pg|| nt|jack2001: 2C is Stayman and North will invite for game|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: funny that branco-brothers re-unified 1 more|pg|| nt|Walddk3: It's our plan to enter scores from the open room as soon as we can in order to get comparisons|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2@d probably good raise for @h|pg|| nt|hedyg: cards as in HCPs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1NT is 12-14 according to their CC. I can't understand how you can upgrade that 11 count to 12|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I would downgrade it to 9½|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Just like upgrading a 14 count playing 15-17, Roland!|pg|| nt|cuttysark: But I agree, this East hand shoud be degraded, not upgraded|pg|| nt|roghog: Add a pt for AQ stiff. They always lead it :-)|pg|| nt|csimon: cash all minor winners and a trump trick by force, since dummy has but 1 entry|pg|| nt|Zmud99: ok i will update|pg|| nt|csimon: whatever it is, I'm sure W has a max|pg|| nt|csimon: the world knew you Dad, Henry!|pg|| nt|gerben42: is it worth 11 then?|pg|| nt|jallerton: You always go by the point count then?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: QJ doubleton a minus, @H10 a plus, so I think yes|pg|| mb|3N|nt|lesniak: but this haND IS PERFECT FOR THIS BIDDIND|pg|| nt|gerben42: wow|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East's rebid here presents a difficult choice: stopper or support?|pg|| nt|szalay: routine game|pg|| nt|tsanders: north really has a pass, but might streach and bid 2NT|pg|| nt|csimon: they did it!|pg|| nt|sommer: here "we" are|pg|| nt|swanson: That is a VERY good non-vul vs vul weak jump shift. Too good for my tastes.|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: michael you are right - 17 is bad if Pd is weak- but it works well otherwise|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am sure our commentators have the CCs at hand, so they can tell about the EW NT range|pg|| nt|stewball: argh|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Opening the auction is usually an advantage|pg|| mb|p|nt|mich-b: EW are in danger of playing 4@H now|pg|| nt|lesniak: bidding|pg|| nt|mich-b: usually the "weak" 2@S response is played as 0-5 or so|pg|| nt|frenske: this is indeed a strong weak jump for the hacketts|pg|| nt|gerben42: dbl = transfer to @S|pg|| nt|mcphee: slam possible in @D but difficult to find|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: sorry Ven's name is too long, opted for abbrev|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: no ofense intended|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: I agree, John. Bertheau decided not to show the H fit|pg|| nt|nickf: what's the modern consensus on opening with 5-5 in the blacks?|pg|| nt|nickf: I amways open 1@S|pg|| nt|nickf: always*|pg|| nt|bjacobs: My consensus is spades|pg|| nt|szalay: slam doesnt have 2 losers but not yet 12 winners|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Depends where in the world you are|pg|| nt|csimon: I know EOK's NT range :))|pg|| nt|davpro: not at hand...more a case of behind 16 other windows...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I know it's 11+ - 14, but who looked it up?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So Gordon has shown 15-17 now|pg|| nt|mich-b: East has 2 options now :|pg|| nt|ozdil: No possible to stay under slam after E opening|pg|| nt|jallerton: Pass or mini NT for me|pg|| nt|Walddk1: After this round there will be a captains' meeting in Estoril where the teams ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd will choose their quarter-final opponents from among the teams ranked 5th ...|pg|| nt|Walddk1: through 8th|pg|| pc|h9|nt|cuttysark: Yeah, 2 tricks are handy when that is all you have|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Anyway, it worked. Kept NS out of game|pg|| nt|gerben42: wow!|pg|| nt|swanson: WOW!|pg|| nt|gerben42: pinch me|pg|| pc|h7|nt|szalay: i prefer 1N with 5M+6m yet, I confess|pg|| nt|Zmud99: ok now|pg|| nt|cuttysark: I open 1@C except when spades are much stronger|pg|| nt|szalay: 1M, sry|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I open 1@C with a hand that's not strong enough to reverse into 3@C after 1@S 2red|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2NT is unlikely to be the best spot. If South does not want to go to game, she will probably bid 3@D.|pg|| nt|sommer: I put my money on a make|pg|| nt|csimon: wd|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, I will give up predicting for 30 minutes. Obviously not my scene.|pg|| nt|sommer: pls David:)) |pg|| pc|h5|nt|yuval10: for running scores : |pg|| nt|yuval10: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg|| nt|eggy: that's a gutsy bid|pg|| nt|gerben42: thank you partner|pg|| nt|tsanders: 2@d by S was not forcing, but N valued her bits and pieces and bid on|pg|| nt|mich-b: try to cash 8 minor tricks hoping both suits break|pg|| nt|jtr: three- play a @s|pg|| nt|davpro: 4 options...every suit makes some sense...|pg|| nt|mich-b: or play another @H hoping the opps will not switch to @Ss|pg|| nt|mcphee: not sure I would have bid over 4NT|pg|| nt|desert: Egypt will try to get one of the first 4 places (second if possible). Then Egypt can pick second whereas choosing the opponent for the quarterfinal...|pg|| nt|eggy: me neither,it was clearly quantitative|pg|| nt|kista: 7@d makes double dummy but they will rest in 6NT|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: Dagher in big thinking|pg|| nt|kista: A @c lead beats 6NT|pg|| nt|eggy: I expect he is considering passing this|pg|| nt|mcphee: not a very good slam in spite of the values W has|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: still|pg|| nt|kista: Some pairs play 5Nt over 3Nt as "super quanti" to guesswork in these situations|pg|| nt|kista: To save guesswork|pg|| nt|desert: 6 NT should be played by WEst.....unfortunately East was the first to bid NT.....|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|scotty: Very strange auction - perhaps partially explaining why POland is 19th|pg|| nt|mich-b: What caused them missing the @H fit?|pg|| nt|frenske: this not the best spot|pg|| nt|lesniak: cannot under Martens didnot bid 3 hearts|pg|| nt|mich-b: wasn't 2@H natural ?|pg|| nt|davpro: a @c lead would have defeated though (as always? :-) )|pg|| nt|hedyg: thats probably the reason for the 1nt opening, the "preempt" effect|pg|| nt|timb: another great result for Portugal|pg|| nt|henryb: missed the 6H bid|pg|| nt|swanson: The pass to 6@H is obviously forcing also.|pg|| nt|gerben42: @CAK then thank you Nystrom|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If it is, I open 1@S|pg|| nt|roghog: We don't like to lose the @c over here|pg|| nt|scotty: 6N is best - some small extra chances - and a 2imp gain if it makes!|pg|| nt|timb: Send the 1@H opening to Al Roth for a wholly appropriate diatribe|pg|| pc|s4|nt|odysseus69: 6 hearts with negative defence is bad psychology|pg|| nt|szalay: otherwise we wd play 6card M sys|pg|| nt|sommer: MA-lead is the only needed for possible 9 tricks|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but pd opened his void |pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3NT is easy enough with spades 5-3, but Sweden will most likely lose 1 IMP|pg|| nt|Walddk2: spades 3-2 rather|pg|| pc|sA|nt|cuttysark: I suppose this is not a great game, but on this club lie China are going to lose another game swing|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@D has a top of around 22 points, because 3@D is game-forcing.|pg|| nt|sommer: right, 2@D is around 16-20|pg|| nt|jack2001: 3N is a bit of an overbid but 3N will make easily will the clubs breaking and the HQ onside|pg|| pc|s5|nt|szalay: 3 over 3 always dangerous|pg|| nt|lesniak: sure and not minimum|pg|| nt|dinos1: i see hearts so nat :))|pg|| nt|mich-b: would 4@H make?|pg|| nt|scotty: Regardless of whether 2@h was natural, this auction highlights the difficulty of playing 2@c might or might not have a fit - W does not know if 2@s is a preference or real support|pg|| nt|dinos1: yet 4@s is on :)|pg|| nt|frenske: in closed S come in with 1@h |pg|| nt|davpro: Could it be that E didn't want to take it to the 3-level- but at the same time didn't want to pass? Very strange though.|pg|| nt|lesniak: heart returne could hurt declarer...|pg|| nt|scotty: I would think at this level that any pair should reach 4@h|pg|| nt|mich-b: except if South overcalls 1@H , that is ...|pg|| nt|bjacobs: You play club contracts in Europe?|pg|| nt|roghog: de rigueur :-)|pg|| nt|scotty: If N had @sJ too, 6N would be getting really close|pg|| nt|aap00: y, if @d 4-1 6n can be made if @Hx or QJ(x)|pg|| nt|aap00: @s Hx|pg|| nt|mcphee: south needs to lead a @C|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, we bid them, never play there|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Except at slam-level|pg|| nt|eggy: leads are ud distribution|pg|| nt|kista: Tewari is likely to respond 2@c to1@h in the other room|pg|| nt|mcphee: quite likely this slam will not be reached at the other table|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: here we go|pg|| pc|h2|nt|scotty: Declarer will only lose 2spades and a @d - any heart losers will go on clubs|pg|| nt|lesniak: but 4 spades is cold anyway|pg|| nt|brolucius: South wsa declarer at the other table (after North stretched to respond to 1@D), so declarer did not get a helpful lead.|pg|| nt|mich-b: Option 2 , should not really work against good defense|pg|| nt|scotty: Often 61d would be better because of possible trump coup when S has @dJxxx, but here I don't think you have the entries|pg|| nt|kista: good lead by Venkat|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|roghog: Chinese ladies got 11 on this board, I'm told. Men not so good...|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Venkat is a great abbreviation Hervé. Just like the great Indian cricketer of the past (now umpire)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|dinos1: he'll overcal if open on E's hand|pg|| nt|davpro: i 2@h showed extras...2@s might have been forcing- E wanted to hold 3NT as an option?|pg|| nt|davpro: if|pg|| nt|dinos1: makes coz long @s with long @c's|pg|| nt|scotty: In the other room against 3N, declarer had a bad moment on seeing the @d lead, but had no problems thereafter - in fact he could have made another trick |pg|| nt|frenske: Jassem will be happy now that he not play 4@h|pg|| nt|scotty: Now he needs the spade finesse - he is down if S has the @sK|pg|| nt|szalay: i never played 1@C in last 6 years|pg|| nt|cuttysark: We should do a contract count - bet clubs come off worst|pg|| nt|szalay: does anybody know the reason?:-)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: You know the great Edgar Kaplan comment?|pg|| nt|szalay: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sure, you play strong club|pg|| nt|szalay: the loss of suits|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes ... "We lost the club suit in the 50s, now diamonds are gone at hearts are sinking fast"|pg|| nt|szalay: first @Cs, after @Ds, and so on|pg|| nt|cuttysark: This is quite unpleasant on a trump lead|pg|| nt|roghog: and soon @s will be just a fert... |pg|| nt|roghog: Can get one ruff, and hope the @d behave|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Any inspired comments for trick 2?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: thanks, specs, I'm keeping count ... keep those suggestions rolling in|pg|| nt|bjacobs: club is spec consensus|pg|| nt|mich-b: knowing the Hacketts , I suspect the might respond 1@S on a 0 count as well ...|pg|| nt|aap00: speeding play|pg|| nt|stewball: 4@h some kind of kickback?|pg|| nt|kista: I am told they are playing 3Nt in the open|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|yuval10: yes, but on this layout he can actually make 10 tricks|pg|| nt|eggy: still, he's missed game|pg|| nt|vugraph141: marcelo pondering..|pg|| nt|swanson: It's going to be 'Thank you West for dropping the @CQ'.|pg|| nt|roghog: ...or play a @c. Two tricky boards for Versace already. Hope he slept well :-) |pg|| nt|davpro: but then again against good defense suits should nor be 3-3....|pg|| nt|davpro: not|pg|| nt|scotty: Yes|pg|| pc|sT|nt|henryb: Is it better to be lucky than good?|pg|| nt|kista: His full name is K R VENKATARAMAN|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|mich-b: perhaps with a 5 card suit ... :)|pg|| nt|swanson: losing 2 trumps and the ace, 10 tricks.|pg|| nt|mcphee: easy for you to say|pg|| nt|kista: Some call him Catamaran|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|gerben42: these guys are both I'm afraid|pg|| nt|odysseus69: and thank you East for pushing us around|pg|| nt|jallerton: Apparently, India collected 1700 from 3@cx on this board|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Indeed, against Poland|pg|| nt|gerben42: ouch|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The major disappointment in the BB|pg|| nt|gerben42: India still at the border of qualifying is a positive surprise though |pg|| nt|bjacobs: South of course is stewing over the possibility of spades 4-1|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Italy the big disappointment in the seniors. They are unlikely to qualify for the quarter-finals|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Garozzo, Forquet and De Falco in the team|pg|| nt|Walddk2: After the final round this evening in Portugal, the pairings for the quater-finals will be decided. Teams ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd will choose their opponents from among the teams ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: ranked 5th through 8th.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: South can set up a heart. but it|pg|| nt|bjacobs: is only an 8th trick|pg|| nt|jallerton: South would like to safety play the @s (low to 7) but that blocks the suit|pg|| nt|bjacobs: South couldn't really afford to take @SK on @SQ (as suggested by some specs), because that could block up the suit when it is 3-2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|yuval10: it's definately a top match, as after 7 rounds, Italy not surprisingly ranks 1st, and Brazil 5th|pg|| nt|beto: hi all|pg|| nt|szalay: but Brazil in losing series, so for them need a good win|pg|| nt|eggy: and could have been closer - Brasil surprisingly fell away this morning after a blistering start|pg|| pc|d6|nt|csimon: unless declarer plays to squash the doubleton 7|pg|| nt|csimon: not % I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s is 5+ weak in nonvulnerable|pg|| nt|henryb: This can be made: SJ, D ruff S9|pg|| nt|gerben42: Lambardi helping to speed things up there |pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: As I said before, this match is crucial for both teams, so every single IMP counts|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|yuval10: top 5 : Italy 160, Egypt 145, USA2 (Ekeblad-Gitelman) 139 Argentina (madele) 134 Brazil (chagas) 132|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Declarer has a diamond entry for the heart finesse. Otherwise she would have had to play a heart from the table and would be exposed to a club guess for the contract.|pg|| nt|csimon: technically perfect play and a big swing to China|pg|| nt|sommer: ..but N is in trouble .. she should have finnessed in @H to make sure of 9 tricks|pg|| nt|tsanders: now at the crossroads: who has what?|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Roberto Barbosa de Oliveira from Brazil|pg|| nt|eggy: bom dia Roberto|pg|| nt|szalay: bom dia|pg|| nt|yuval10: Brazil also lost to Egypt in the last match of yesterday by a whopping 25:3|pg|| nt|mich-b: Maybe West could suggest 3NT in his 3rd bid , with his 5422 , extras , and weak trumps?|pg|| nt|dinos1: @s and claim|pg|| nt|cuttysark: He will ruff a diamond and hope the suit breaks - cannot afford a second round of trump|pg|| nt|mich-b: meant 2@S , sorry|pg|| nt|csimon: N would have saved a trick by continuing @ds|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|swanson: A double finesse in clubs is possible, but anti-percentage in a vaccum and not to be considered through a preemptor.|pg|| nt|henryb: Cashin D first will get down 2|pg|| nt|csimon: no reason to go down 2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So far, there are no imps at all to count|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|sommer: ok:)|pg|| pc|dT|nt|szalay: A of @D is sure play for the most of distribution|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not in trouble with the heart king right.|pg|| nt|mcphee: a @H now will lead to another down trick|pg|| nt|mcphee: maybe not|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: TD called to the table about possible thinking of Chok|pg|| nt|kista: One suit Squeeze will work|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|odysseus69: he is even going to have a count b4 playing clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Just be happy that we didn't have badminton on BBO vugraph in the 60's. Because a name like Thailand's Chanarong Ratanasaengsuang could take anyone's breath away|pg|| pc|cK|nt|mcphee: that is a mouthfull|pg|| nt|kista: more than a...|pg|| pc|cA|nt|cuttysark: I think China should have reached game anyway...|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|nt|sommer: no no, @D7 was worth more than a beer here:)|pg|| nt|jallerton: could be 1 imp to Argentina on this board|pg|| nt|eggy: could have been 1 here, but not now|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Don't think so|pg|| nt|eggy: If you introduce it now Roland, please don't put me down for commentary|pg|| pc|d4|nt|csimon: true Povl :))|pg|| pc|h3|nt|hedyg: to get the players CCs: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|s8|nt|tsanders: E subjected to a funny little sqz|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c2|nt|Vugraph803: still discussing with TD|pg|| nt|mcphee: i can't think there will be any reversal on this hand|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|brolucius: So, a big swing comes from nobody doing anything particularly wrong. Both sides bid forwardly and it then depended on which way round you played the contract.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| nt|jack2001: WBridge5 nicely squeezed east for an overtrick|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S984HQ8DQ654C9873,S3HAT63D872CAQT64,SAJT76HKJ7DAK3CK5,SKQ52H9542DJT9CJ2|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|mrdct: i see, and 1, 2 & 3 obviously didn't pick the USA that came 5th|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge1.org/bulletin/05_2%20Estoril/bul_08.pdf for the pairings in the quarter-finals in all 3 series|pg|| nt|sartre: Another of our guest commentators is Mike Whittaker from Blue Chip Bridge.|pg|| nt|mrdct: nice stop|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|sartre: Mike sez: 3S is a bit aggressive, even for Jack, on two queens, one possibly worthless on the bidding.|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: generally winning bridge is to err on the side of aggression|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|sartre: Jack will need to handle the KQxx offside in trumps here.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|sartre: The AC onside helps.|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|mrdct: not much can go wrong here |pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|mrdct: tries for the overtrick|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c4|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Jack's aggression has served well in the past. However, in the third quarter, Jack went down at both tables on four successive deals, costing 20 IMPs.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Time schedule for the 3 segments of the QFs today: 12, 15 and 18 Paris, 6, 9 and 12 New York, 10 pm, 1 am and 4 am Sydney|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S984HQ8DQ654C9873,S3HAT63D872CAQT64,SAJT76HKJ7DAK3CK5,SKQ52H9542DJT9CJ2|sv|e|nt|lesniak: not the best contract but licky one|pg|| nt|davpro: yes- they clearly must have had some missunderstanding|pg|| nt|vugraph801: fgffgf|pg|| nt|hedyg: 20 imps in the first 2 boards!|pg|| nt|csimon: CR got a trump lead - that made it a bit easier|pg|| nt|swanson: East - West are now officially ill.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well, I guess that's why Versace is at the table, and we are all watching|pg|| nt|szalay: cause of u can play @C later as well|pg|| nt|nickf: looks like 3NT EW here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: West is in 3NT at the other table and going down|pg|| nt|csimon: the Chinese are EXTREMELY aggressive bidders - which is why I was very surprised by bd 1|pg|| nt|sommer: slam?|pg|| nt|mich-b: Spectators are asking for some info about the players |pg|| nt|csimon: that was also insulting to the opponents|pg|| nt|davpro: in that case it might ghave been a good play...are they mad yet? :-)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Sweden ahead by 10 total points|pg|| nt|eggy: after 2 boards, I think only 2 matches had any VP swings in th ebowl|pg|| nt|aap00: .|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: next hand|pg|| nt|mcphee: poor judegement from El Kourdy to bid over 4N|pg|| mb|p|nt|aap00: hi al|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: its perfect small slam=nordic grand slam|pg|| nt|szalay: despite of bad trumop break its make thx to @C-@H squeeze|pg|| nt|cuttysark: These long matches tend to ebb and flow (unless you are Italian, when they only ebb)|pg|| nt|jbgood: I still claim that trumps are lead too often:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|gerben42: L - V too perhaps, if you look at the scorecard for the other table they aren't participating|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1NT = 12 - 14 freedom style|pg|| nt|gerben42: they open 1NT on anything remotely like it|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ok -you are right John- I predict a push|pg|| nt|sommer: 6@C E is possible|pg|| nt|mich-b: Victor , can you present the Hacketts for us?|pg|| nt|csimon: 4@s is a good save|pg|| nt|mich-b: Chen- Furuta , are a young pair, representing the new generation of Japanese Bridge|pg|| nt|davpro: have|pg|| nt|csimon: lol :)))|pg|| nt|aap00: 3n for ew|pg|| nt|mcphee: no @H fit, poor @c|pg|| mb|1S|nt|gerben42: welcome |pg|| mb|p|nt|scotty: This hand may test E-W signaling methods|pg|| nt|timb: bad luck for EW on this hand as slam is good |pg|| nt|desert: this looks like plain sailing in 3NT|pg|| nt|tsanders: sometimes a trouble with Precision is when you "do" have @ds|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@c is any gameforcing hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c is either a limit hand with fit or gameforcing|pg|| nt|mcphee: awkward to balance here|pg|| nt|kista: East can dbl for take out|pg|| mb|d|nt|beto: wins with a trump coup too i think|pg|| nt|szalay: only @S lead (from west) causes problem, but solvable anyway|pg|| nt|vugraph141: 4@s = @d slam try|pg|| nt|mich-b: how strong is this 1nt?|pg|| nt|frenske: 17-19|pg|| nt|nickf: on what lead ?|pg|| nt|szalay: 3N wont be a real test...morning coffee for me, brb|pg|| nt|mich-b: Trying to combine both options cost her 2 Imps|pg|| nt|scotty: 2@s shows no 4-card M|pg|| nt|jallerton: Quiet boards for early in the morning. All the wild boards were last night|pg|| nt|mcphee: yes, but would not welcome a 2@D call from partner|pg|| mb|r|nt|henryb: 2C is an artificial game force|pg|| nt|brolucius: I predict 4@S|pg|| nt|brolucius: Definitely my last prediction if I am wrong.|pg|| nt|csimon: but an unlikely one|pg|| nt|odysseus69: the Hacket twins have been regulars in the England team for what seems like for-ever.|pg|| nt|mich-b: I am told Chen is actually Chinese, and has lived in japan for many years|pg|| nt|henryb: In 1989 one of the American Women's pairs made a living staying out of 23 and 24 point games|pg|| nt|scotty: With a useful hand|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We will get a few later on, too early for most people|pg|| nt|gerben42: i think all the "seeded" teams play each other in the evenings maybe that's why the exciting boards are in nights|pg|| nt|kista: Probably cautious after the last board|pg|| mb|p|nt|scotty: Soloway at the top of his range here - Hamman will probably pass|pg|| nt|sommer: difficult now for E, X is best|pg|| nt|csimon: England did very well in the CR|pg|| nt|odysseus69: They reached the top very early having been introduced to the game and championed by their father,Paul Hacket - still a current International|pg|| nt|swanson: Yes, SOuth bid 4@S over 4@H after the same auction at the other table. Seems speculative to me.|pg|| nt|henryb: They picked up 5 or 6 imps on more boards than I can remember|pg|| nt|csimon: at least there is an excuse for bidding this one - the vul game bonus|pg|| nt|davpro: Defense will have to do alot wrong for this to make...and I doubt they will..|pg|| nt|mich-b: Well, what is the popular opinion today? lead a small @H , or an honour , from KQxx ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|eggy: as it happens East is caught in 3 suits, so it can be played as a simple automatic in the blacks, or an either/or double (East Clubs, West Spades|pg|| nt|yuval10: @d slam try, and nunes didn't accept with all those controls?|pg|| nt|roghog: If Fu bangs out his A, will declarer suspect a bad break in trumps?|pg|| nt|szalay: went down? dont believe|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @H6|pg|| nt|brolucius: Aagh!|pg|| nt|eggy: It's the last thing you want if you are playing the bottom team though|pg|| mb|2C|nt|davpro: Suspect yes...but will he dare to play on it?|pg|| nt|hedyg: he seems to play "points shmoints" and i must say i agree with him on this hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d is relay and 2@h is relay|pg|| nt|csimon: and Garozzo's 2@d was a relay of sorts?|pg|| nt|swanson: 2@D is a relay, not necessarily hearts.|pg|| mb|3S|nt|szalay: 4N is tough to play yet|pg|| nt|nickf: you must drink instant coffee if you got it that quickly|pg|| nt|bjacobs: How does a heart lead help?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I'm with Georg|pg|| nt|nickf: and then played the @DK did he ?|pg|| nt|sommer: ..but not pass from W:)|pg|| nt|davpro: lead the right one...:-)|pg|| nt|davpro: it depends...alot...|pg|| nt|csimon: I think the poll would go about 80-20 for leading small (maybe even higher)|pg|| nt|scotty: If N finds a heart lead, there could be a problem|pg|| nt|jallerton: Plating strong @c (1@d could be short) , East is not going to risk a @d lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|cuttysark: Big view - could East be accused of playing with her fingers?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: how is your Italian fellow commentators|pg|| nt|henryb: Minimal|pg|| nt|gerben42: I have a telephone joker for that|pg|| nt|Zmud99: 2@H is 4@H or maximum without majors|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Ah, the penny drops|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Don't think he can afford that 8!|pg|| nt|brolucius: What else can West do?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roghog: An italian maestro told me always to play for bad frump breaks if they lead an A|pg|| nt|scotty: no I guess not|pg|| nt|ozdil: any lead he can make 9 tricks...|pg|| nt|scotty: Fantoni-Nunes play very unusual spot card leads vs. NT|pg|| nt|aap00: no problem at all|pg|| nt|stewball: a @d lead for a push|pg|| nt|scotty: Low shows a good holding with an honor OR a bad holding with no honor|pg|| nt|aap00: some story cud be if N be able to introduce @d, say after 1@c opening...|pg|| nt|scotty: High, the opposite|pg|| nt|stewball: the rule of something or other|pg|| nt|scotty: Sorry, meamt low shows and odd number with an honor OR even number with no honor|pg|| nt|scotty: high the opposite|pg|| nt|scotty: Fantoni will probably lead @h9|pg|| nt|stewball: Fantoni probably asking about stopper inferences|pg|| nt|kista: yes very likely|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 20 honors with nice spotcards in @c and 5-5 is a beautiful hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2nt a minimum balanced hand|pg|| nt|henryb: 2D denied various unusual hands|pg|| nt|gerben42: you have the script?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The danger of looking at the hand at double dummy|pg|| nt|scotty: So that shows an odd number with no honor OR even number with an honor|pg|| nt|scotty: From Nunes's point of view, if his partner has @CQ instead of @dQ, he has a good chance to defeat this.|pg|| nt|ozdil: probably top of nothing lead is not good in this position, if pd has ace of heart also give the contract, best lead is Q diamond for me|pg|| nt|jallerton: Playing even|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have almost 2,500 spectators at the 2 tables. We expect to break the record of users online in the last round today. It stands at 8,194|pg|| nt|gerben42: could even be things like 3415|pg|| nt|kista: EW can easily be stolen blind of a M game in this auction|pg|| nt|jack2001: 3S is the limit on this board. Perhaps South could have pushed to 4S here.|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|lesniak: nice moment for Soloway|pg|| nt|mich-b: Soloway had an easy decison over Hamman's t/o Dbl|pg|| nt|davpro: I never have AKQJ of trumps when P makes a double....|pg|| nt|mich-b: what do you think about Martens' reopening 2@S ?|pg|| nt|szalay: after 8 of @H u know the place of A|pg|| nt|brolucius: I don't like East's double at all, particularly at the vulnerability|pg|| nt|odysseus69: All 3 Hackets are playing in current Trials for Warsaw- in different teams|pg|| nt|timb: Australian open declarer failed in 1NT and the USA1 in 2NT - flat board|pg|| pc|c3|nt|odysseus69: i confess to feeling stupid when supposed to be commentating on bidding I do not understand|pg|| nt|gerben42: 2@D was a transfer to @H|pg|| nt|gerben42: but might deny them later on|pg|| nt|odysseus69: there is as much chance of me finding the system notes as ... My maximum is to arrive here|pg|| nt|swanson: Fantoni - Nunes convention cards at: http://public.aci.on.ca/ zpetkov/CC/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not much of a problem wen the 9 held|pg|| nt|Walddk2: when|pg|| nt|szalay: italy is on front...but egypt has weapons yet:-)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: No, easy now, second blood to Italy|pg|| nt|sommer: it depends on, if 2@H denies 4c @H, I think ..X is mainly t/o as I see it|pg|| pc|cA|nt|scotty: I like the balance by Martens here - he knows his partner has a decent hand with cards over the strong hand. DEfending 1N has no attraction |pg|| nt|dinos1: six top tricks - down 1|pg|| nt|mich-b: Personally , any time I lead small , declarer wins with the Jack ...|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|davpro: do they lead 4th from top? :-)|pg|| nt|davpro: the bidding went overbord...but ended in the right (wrong? ) spot|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East is sort of endplayed here|pg|| nt|gerben42: will keep an eye on that 8,194 number tonight|pg|| nt|timb: After five boards, the two Australian matches I'm following are 0-2 and 1-1. As my old friend Keith McNeil would say "We need some blood spilt!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is pretty slow going. The alloted time for 20 boards playing with screens is 2 hours and 50 minutes|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's very difficult, but if East had been able to duck the @HJ smoothly, then the defence might have had chances|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: those Italian Maestro gave good advice:))|pg|| nt|timb: 6NT makes if guess either hearts or clubs (provided you unblock @H10) |pg|| nt|roghog: ... in Tenerife|pg|| nt|jbgood: and 3 NT denied an unusual result|pg|| nt|mich-b: but maybe that is only a personal issue|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sure from AJ doubleton opposite 2 or 3 small|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bjacobs: Suppose a low heart lead had gone to the J and Q ... what is the best play by declarer from there?|pg|| nt|scotty: DEclarer will attack spades first|pg|| pc|c2|nt|cuttysark: (Since David Burn is not here)|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|nt|hedyg: now if he just listens to Liz...|pg|| nt|gerben42: anyone predicting other than flat board?|pg|| nt|tsanders: appears to be off 2, a good save vs 3NT|pg|| nt|brolucius: You see... Gu did bid 4@S at the other table after just the same auction!|pg|| pc|h2|nt|szalay: easier now...after small @S shift declarer gotta play for blockage|pg|| nt|frenske: 6 top tricks|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Personally I would cash an ace against this bidding with any old heart holding|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|gerben42: we've been wrong before!|pg|| nt|gerben42: how about floating a @D?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|tsanders: or even a 4@s contract which I believe would have made|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|nt|timb: so would I|pg|| nt|davpro: what @H would you play on the first round? 54 or 3|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Yes|pg|| nt|hedyg: i am told the Russian player made 6@h|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I guess they are now mid 30s - but still called the"boys" by everyone|pg|| nt|frenske: justin is married with Barbara Stawowy and is a great fan from Man United there are both my aged 35!|pg|| nt|csimon: and E has no entry to shoot a @c through for a potential ruff to get 500|pg|| nt|mich-b: I am told Japan Qualified to this event from zone 6 , by 1 IMP gained on the last board of their last match against Indonesia|pg|| nt|gerben42: after 5 boards USA2 to Guadeloupe is still goalless draw|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Declarer could play @CQ here, knowing that at least one of @CK and @HK must be with West|pg|| nt|gerben42: but India seems to play more interesting boards as they lead 23 - 1|pg|| pc|sA|nt|sommer: but, sry, why is E to decide?|pg|| nt|csimon: I wouldn't want to have Smith's decision|pg|| nt|sommer: W should in my opinion bid 4!@H on partners t/oX|pg|| nt|scotty: Well if you switch @cK and @dK, heart lead is the winner|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The same can't be said in the match between Italy and Bangladesh (seniors). BD up by 21|pg|| pc|s2|nt|henryb: There is a very interesting article in the Bridge World this month on reading signals|pg|| nt|csimon: my tiny personal poll of specs who wrote in was 100% for small|pg|| nt|kista: Another 5 imps to India|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|gerben42: with @HA out of the way probably wont work anymore|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Or Ax Jx |pg|| nt|davpro: Mats Nilsland says that if you lead low and it is wrong...you have not only led badly...you have also given up youre right to lead...but if you lead high and it is wrong you might ...|pg|| nt|davpro: be able to shift (in time)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|lesniak: Martens should escape only 1 down with lucky heart-club position|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The Egyptian West must have played @DK, hoping to lose a diamond to the "safe" South hand|pg|| nt|roghog: @D , intending to plat the 8, I guess, Bill|pg|| nt|szalay: K of @D is ok if we think @H lead came from shortness|pg|| nt|frenske: Barbara plays in the german ladies team here in Estoril|pg|| nt|mich-b: in the CR , Townsend applied the philosophy , that 4@S over 4@H is always good |pg|| nt|swanson: Hi!|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mich-b: this approach seems to work pretty well , at times :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Justin has recently taken up poker on the internet- and is yet another big winner- playing on multiple dcreens|pg|| nt|davpro: Personaly I think low is best...but far from all the time...|pg|| pc|s8|nt|roghog: My spy (many thanks) says the Chinese ladies made this one. Should be in the Open!|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx John - i went there but could see nothing after 1NT-maybe in small print|pg|| nt|gerben42: no is nothing there|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|scotty: WAsn't there a Hamman Wolff hand where the strong clubber had AKQJ FIFTH, yet they still made 2@s doubled?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Or Axx Jx it all depends on the layout|pg|| nt|csimon: so the real answer is to be omniscient and do what's right|pg|| nt|mich-b: Michael Rosenberg suggests it may depend on the spot cards|pg|| nt|mich-b: The higher the spots , you tend to lead the Honour|pg|| nt|bjacobs: This looks like a goal to Argentina|pg|| pc|s5|nt|nickf: then the roof caved in|pg|| nt|szalay: otherwise small toward 8 is clearly better|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Diamond to the 8 is only troublesome if North has Qxxx or Jxxx|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @DK at trick 2 it was|pg|| nt|brolucius: Smith could perhaps have bid 4@H herself when 5-4 in the majors.|pg|| nt|davpro: But the truth is: it depends on what P has got :-)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|sommer: Q97 is not to punish with red/white|pg|| nt|timb: all sensible roads lead to +90|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: Right, and may meet at the World Cup in Germany next summer|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|desert: looking at the actual leaderboard.....1. Italy 382 2. India 340 USA1 340 Egypt 340 5. Argentina 339,5 6. China 339 7 USA2 338 8. Sweden 336 9. Brazil 323.......this will get hot!|pg|| pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Double suggests 'Bid 4@S with 3-card support, otherwise defend.'|pg|| nt|aap00: now decl has some problems, he can't cash all @c, it'll squeese dummy|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|csimon: 9 tops and opponents of Sontag/Weichsel's class will not misdiscard and give up a 10th trick|pg|| nt|csimon: now, don't make me eat those words Peter & Alan!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Football that is|pg|| nt|Walddk2: real football!|pg|| nt|eggy: Association|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Sontag-Weichsel sitting out, so you are quite right, Carol :-)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|scotty: @d lead needs partner to have 2 tricks PLUS diamonds must be good. I think it's better to hope declarer has @dK|pg|| nt|eggy: I don't think that Dagher will be happy with the order of EL Kourdy's @H pips|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kista: now he makes only 3|pg|| nt|kista: 5 players from this Indian team qualifeid into the last eight in Bermuda bowl in Paris|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|odysseus69: down to 10 tricks|pg|| nt|scotty: he has 9 tricks|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S74HJT8DAK9653CKQ,SKQ86HQ6DT84CJ873,SJ3HAK5432D7CA952,SAT952H97DQJ2CT64|sv|b|nt|mrdct: quite inconvenient for me - could you ask europe to go back on daylight savings time for roland?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 11, 2 and 5 London|pg|| nt|sartre: After the first 3 deals of the fourth quarter, the only score is an overtrick IMP to WBridge5 on deal 2 in 3NT.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Do they have a time limit?|pg|| nt|sartre: WB5 seemed to pick up the overtrick in the closed room by means of a squeeze.|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|sartre: Computers play two minutes per partnership per deal, or four minutes per all four players per deal -- about twice as fast as humans.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|sartre: 2H is forcing here.|pg|| nt|sartre: 2S is a game-forcing relay.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So I guess PO Sundeline didn't programme them :-)|pg|| mb|3C!|an|unknown minor|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|relay|nt|al9al9: Good play this year from third place finisher Q Plus Bridge and fourth place finisher Micro Bridge|pg|| mb|p|nt|sartre: 3C shows 10 to 14 HCP, 4+ in either minor, and 0 to 3 spades.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: are the computers in this competitions restricted in what systems they are allowed to use? |pg|| nt|sartre: 3D is a relay showing 5+ diamonds or 3+ hearts.|pg|| mb|3S!|an|hearts and clubs|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|mrdct: jack should be able to diagnose the lack of @s control here an stop short of slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|sartre: The computers in this competition are restricted to relatively natural opening bids. The rest can be rather scientific.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|al9al9: Jack and Wbridge5 were clearly the best this year, with Jack winning 9 of 10 20 board segments|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sartre: 3S shows 6+ hearts, 4+ clubs; 4H is to play.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|nt|sartre: With no spade lead, Jack looks to make overtricks here.|pg|| pc|d8|nt|mrdct: 13|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|sartre: 3-3 diamond break makes it easy to set up the suit. Portuguese keyboards make it difficult to type punctuation.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mrdct: blew a trick there|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: undo that comment|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: I can already see that these "guys" play considerably better than my aunt Mary|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No offence intended, Mary|pg|| pc|dA|pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|sartre: No spade lead in the closed room either. Looks like another push at +710. Jack needs some swingy boards to make up some ground.|pg|| nt|al9al9: better than Intermediate but not expert...yet...|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S74HJT8DAK9653CKQ,SKQ86HQ6DT84CJ873,SJ3HAK5432D7CA952,SAT952H97DQJ2CT64|sv|b|nt|szalay: well done, but likely Brazilian IMPs|pg|| nt|vugraph141: claudio nunes groans...|pg|| nt|beto: 3nt was the contract at the other room|pg|| nt|hedyg: 6@d is easy|pg|| nt|hedyg: sitting out?|pg|| nt|csimon: who are these phantom players named Sontag & Weichsel?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: OK then :-)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|swanson: A bit strange to not lead towards the diamond holding.|pg|| nt|gerben42: hmm not stable here|pg|| nt|gerben42: when I get that hand I never get 3 passes to me|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South in 4@S in the other room|pg|| nt|szalay: small to 8 is problem if: North has that holding AND 3-card @H|pg|| nt|csimon: and then Smith should convert 4@h to 5@c? that might get them to 6@c the right way up|pg|| nt|brolucius: I still think 4@S is right. East cannot expect a high club contract to be on. West had a super-max with 18 points.|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I mean Jason - sorry|pg|| nt|mich-b: We seem to have a sequence of "non-exciting" 3NT contracts|pg|| nt|timb: that's soccer down here|pg|| mb|p|nt|beto: made 10 tricks, 1 imps to italy|pg|| nt|beto: results can be found at http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg|| nt|eggy: maybe the heart pips will save Fantoni going overboard here|pg|| nt|Walddk4: I am asked where Zia is. He is in Estoril too, but playing for USA2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: or maybe 4-4 herats|pg|| nt|sommer: or 5-3-1-4, 5-3-0-5, 5-2-1-5 in my humble opinion:))|pg|| nt|brolucius: And less wasted in diamonds that East might expect.|pg|| nt|kista: 12 tricks in @h's or @s's without a @d lead for NS|pg|| nt|timb: Footy here is Aussie Rules|pg|| mb|1H|nt|Walddk4: With John Mohan|pg|| nt|hedyg: for running scores: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg|| nt|hedyg: michaels 2nt|pg|| nt|jbgood: closed room contract will not be duplicated now|pg|| nt|henryb: Just what Garozzo wanted to hear: partner has H & C|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the closed room Fantoni - Nunes are NS against El Kourdy - Dagher|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| mb|1S|nt|gerben42: most reached 4@S here but some played 3@H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Pretty dull 4@S with 2 losers. This should not take long|pg|| nt|Walddk1: The two USA teams will play each other in the quarter-finals if they finish 4th and 5th (unless 1-3 pick 5th)|pg|| mb|2D|nt|eggy: anyone prefer to pass South?|pg|| nt|lesniak: but part passing over 1 nt denies 5 hearts so grait chance for 2 hearts tricks...|pg|| nt|scotty: That result shows the value of balancing - he ran into a stack, and still lost only two imps. Normally, it would be a winner|pg|| mb|3S|nt|beto: brazil played in 2@H making here|pg|| nt|yuval10: if W bids again they can found themselves in troubles|pg|| nt|henryb: 3H shows a forcing hand with spades|pg|| nt|csimon: Weichsel's 3@h is most likely competitive in @ss and 3@s would have been forcing|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1@S = natural and forcing|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Singleton club lead will see offf 4@S|pg|| nt|scotty: fantoni-Nunes also have an unusual opening style|pg|| nt|kista: 5@h appears to have gone down on a pronotion after @d K lead in the open room|pg|| nt|ozdil: 3 NT is best for NS, also 4 SP and 4 H is ok..|pg|| nt|scotty: 2-level shows about 10-14, 5-card suit |pg|| nt|stewball: Fred made only 10 tricks in the Closed Room|pg|| nt|aap00: open room lead in 5@h was small @d :)|pg|| nt|scotty: 1-level is unlimited|pg|| nt|stewball: low @d lead from the ace|pg|| nt|aap00: only way to defeat 5@h|pg|| nt|mcphee: this may be the first push board|pg|| nt|kista: Actually can make 3 because of favourable @c and @d's|pg|| nt|mcphee: I think declarer will be pleased to make 1 here|pg|| nt|kista: Yes but playing @c cannot be wrong at all|pg|| nt|mcphee: playing on @C he could actually go down|pg|| nt|kista: If the @d k is right any way there are 7 tricks|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: Dagher still thinking|pg|| nt|mcphee: even with the K@D onside he is only seeing 6 tricks|pg|| nt|kista: 4@d + 2@s + @hA|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: 14 - 36 HCP approx.|pg|| nt|mich-b: A good start for England here |pg|| nt|mich-b: And they really need a good win , to try and advance towards the 8th place|pg|| nt|gerben42: with various amounts of undertricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|mich-b: A weak 6 card suit , is often worth bidding over their 1NT , since it might be worthless on defense|pg|| nt|davpro: yes- but harder to reach ?|pg|| nt|csimon: usually flipped in this situation Henry|pg|| nt|csimon: maybe 1nt was the culprit?|pg|| nt|sommer: it still very much depends on how you have agreed to play doubles with your partner|pg|| nt|brolucius: It looked best at the time. Only a double spade, so a double was not so attractive.|pg|| mb|4H|nt|frenske: jassem martens play vul polish club and not vul strong club|pg|| nt|mich-b: especially since pd is not likely to lead it|pg|| nt|dinos1: no save?|pg|| nt|hedyg: is 3@d a natural bid for all?|pg|| nt|davpro: yes (or atleast natural(ish)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: 2-way - either a cue or natural and very strong|pg|| nt|henryb: No, otherway around|pg|| nt|jbgood: right u are Carol|pg|| nt|jtr: 2m would be canape|pg|| mb|p|nt|scotty: N-s have a good save here, but no chance on this auction|pg|| nt|frenske: usa had a chance to save in 5@c|pg|| nt|hedyg: actually looks like they play Ghestem over a minor opening|pg|| nt|csimon: in the US we call it an unusual NT|pg|| nt|swanson: 2@D artificial, game force.|pg|| nt|scotty: after a revealing auction indicating no @d control|pg|| nt|kista: correct|pg|| nt|aap00: 4@s - 5@h ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: well as the cards lie that is so, however one does not expect 4@D tricks most days|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: I think west's double was optimistic: if partner passes over DBL and in passed-out seat: what can we lose?|pg|| nt|dinos1: X of 4@c - suggesting the save?|pg|| nt|hedyg: W took it as natural|pg|| nt|timb: difficult to for East to diagnose the @H control|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good effort by the Chinese in the closed room. This is not an easily bid slam|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@h would have been nice fromW|pg|| nt|davpro: it actually gets harder after W (preemptive) jumprebid|pg|| nt|roghog: Yes, cue first, and support next|pg|| nt|timb: Perhaps easier to bid if West passes 2@H. East bids 3@D and West splinters?|pg|| nt|hedyg: she has no way to ask him for a @h stopper|pg|| nt|brolucius: If East had held 5-3-3-2 shape and some points, she could only double after the initial transfer. She would not be pleased to hear 4@H.|pg|| nt|mich-b: 2@D here is an artificial game-force|pg|| nt|jack2001: Another board that will probably be flat in 4H in both rooms. Time is running out for Jack|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: sorry- missed the overcall (I'm blind)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: If East reads it|pg|| pc|c4|nt|mich-b: If South's Dbl was suggesting a good suit , and possibility of a save , they did have a chance|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes Timthat works too|pg|| nt|cuttysark: If only they had agreed a major she could bid 5M|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes Liz|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Has she been watching Zia?|pg|| nt|nickf: poland took a phantom sacrifice in 5D vs Australia on this one.|pg|| nt|nickf: who would overcall 2@d by east|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not me|pg|| nt|bjacobs: bucket, please|pg|| nt|szalay: rather death and not 2@D yet|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Yeugh|pg|| nt|roghog: As Mrs Giggins says at our local club..I always lead a singleton, unless it's a void :-)|pg|| nt|henryb: 2D is GF relay|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@D is a GF relay|pg|| nt|ozdil: if N bid 4 SP now South can Pass|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: lol a Zia anticuebid!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: sturdy advice indeed|pg|| nt|roghog: sturdy woman...|pg|| nt|nickf: a friend told me once of an opponent alerting a partner's lead - as a singleton - becasue it was led with the left hand|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Isn't that common everywhere?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: that's all above board, as long as it's on the system card|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Old chestnut|pg|| nt|scotty: after 1@s-2@h, 3@h-3@s, N bid 3N as a strong slam try. When S signed off, N should probably have respected that|pg|| nt|aap00: may be pass now, no @d control|pg|| nt|aap00: ?|pg|| nt|ozdil: Why not Pass if he knows pd has no diamond contrul?|pg|| pc|c3|nt|eggy: I agree, the last thing we want is partner to bid 2D|pg|| nt|odysseus69: WELL!|pg|| nt|tsanders: both N and S made some very good decisions|pg|| nt|sommer: no, she would move 4@H to 4@S showing a usefull @Csuit!|pg|| nt|csimon: this is a no-pt 3nt|pg|| nt|brolucius: What, on 5-3-3-2 shape?|pg|| nt|csimon: every card is favorable|pg|| nt|sommer: no , not with 5-3-3-2 |pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, you can't change West's bid according to what East holds. |pg|| nt|sommer: I don't:)|pg|| nt|csimon: even if you are locked out of the N hand, the defense can play nothing that won't help you|pg|| nt|brolucius: Basically 4@H does not look sound to me. It was the double that caused the trouble (as I see it... in my humble opinion... etc..)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|mich-b: quite popular today to play after 1x-1y-1NT|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|henryb: Not clead that he can make this. Seem to be 5 losers|pg|| nt|henryb: As Joey would say, Next|pg|| nt|mich-b: 2m would be "surely canape" or "possibly canape"?|pg|| nt|jtr: surely i believe|pg|| nt|mich-b: to explain : canape is a style of bidding where one opens in his 2nd longest suit , and later bids a longer one|pg|| nt|kista: It is clear that @d controls are missing|pg|| nt|stewball: same infererence is available here.....|pg|| nt|scotty: Same principle here - Hampson will lead low @d|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|lesniak: Martens's 4 clubs is "strong splinter"|pg|| nt|roghog: Many play 4@H as an A ask on this|pg|| nt|hedyg: well, she tried!|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Hasn't helped, though|pg|| nt|mich-b: that 2@C is any invite, and 2@D any GF|pg|| nt|kista: Flat board |pg|| nt|stewball: well done|pg|| nt|aap00: well done |pg|| pc|h6|nt|cuttysark: Someone says Last Train - I suppose any other bid would be ambiguous?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: looks like a good stop except that 3 NT is hard to defend|pg|| nt|mich-b: "possibly" makes more sense to me - I think they will bid 2@C with 5-4 or 4-5 |pg|| pc|hA|nt|hedyg: if you decide to open the W hand and to rebid a free 3@c then you MUST bid out your hand!|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|scotty: Not sure I understand the double of 4@c |pg|| nt|swanson: The best lead, giving West rounded suit out cards when he wins the @DA.|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jack2001: Hard to find the spade lead. North will take all the tricks now.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|gerben42: Versace ducked the @D twice and then there were 9|pg|| nt|kista: Venkat falsecarded but..|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm told several made the slam on the last board. An exciting set :-)|pg|| nt|mich-b: but I don't know their system details very well|pg|| nt|davpro: I once played 2 matches in a row with a new P...our only agreement was that we play canape...it was very amusing :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon to David Burn, live from the venue in Estoril|pg|| nt|henryb: I think they open 2C with 4-5/|pg|| nt|jtr: apparently it would show 9 cards anyway|pg|| nt|dburn: Hello|pg|| nt|mich-b: Hi David|pg|| nt|jtr: Morning David|pg|| nt|csimon: hi David :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| pc|d7|nt|cuttysark: There goes the second undertrick|pg|| pc|d2|nt|henryb: You need to give count|pg|| pc|dK|nt|lesniak: 13-15|pg|| nt|henryb: I think he will make 4|pg|| nt|gerben42: and if he'd take it endplay|pg|| nt|swanson: East needs to discard a diamond count card here to help his partner.|pg|| nt|henryb: Now a club pitch, and East should show D count|pg|| nt|scotty: Americans had a much better chance to stop in 4@h, on their auction|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|csimon: tell us about Estoril during this boring 3nt - is it a beautiful resort town?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our last match today at 18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York will feature USA1 vs. Netherlands in the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: he will|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, this 1NT contract is even less interesting than most 1NT contracts. And that is saying something. |pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|nt|lesniak: or so|pg|| nt|odysseus69: unusual accident with no entry dummy- however assuming a club lead and declare cashed spades West is in some difficulty|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|dburn: I have no idea. I have been with the Hacketts, so I have only seen the curry houses.|pg|| nt|henryb: After this, it looks like Canada will get back at least 1 imp|pg|| nt|csimon: lol :))|pg|| nt|davpro: Are they happy with them...it seems to me that the best curryhouses ought to be in England?|pg|| nt|Zmud99: We will add one match at 18.30 Paris , 12.30 pn NY : USA 2 vs Italy !!! |pg|| nt|dburn: They are. Unfortunately, they would not let us bring English curry through customs. But the food here is perfectly fine.|pg|| pc|cK|nt|mich-b: Probably Hamman wasnt sure he understands it either|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|brolucius: We can see from the result in the Closed Room, the N-S would have done better to let the opponents stew in their own poor contract. |pg|| nt|csimon: even Liu's choice of playing a @c and not a @h with her only entry at trk 1 was perfect|pg|| nt|brolucius: Unless North can find an inspired pass to the double of 1@S!|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|gerben42: that is what happened in closed|pg|| pc|hT|nt|hedyg: he had controls in @s, @h and @c and his pd wants to play slam!|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: in 3NT West has to pitch 2 diamonds and a club on the run of the spades - not easy|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s6|nt|swanson: Solid defensive effort by Sweden.|pg|| nt|mcphee: now @H blocked|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kista: One more by stepping stone|pg|| pc|s8|nt|csimon: well played!|pg|| pc|h3|nt|tsanders: making 4|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SK6HA865D87642CJ9,ST43HT72DKQ3C8754,SQ7HK4DAT95CAKQT3,SAJ9852HQJ93DJC62|sv|n|nt|mrdct: an edge that the computer have over humans is perfect memory for whats gone by and an absence of mechanical errors|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|sartre: True. Computers also don't suffer from fatigue, although their operators can.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|Walddk2: And they are never criticised by their partner|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: do the computer programs draw inferences from opps hesitations?|pg|| mb|p|nt|sartre: 3NT cold on any lead, but the 4C bid makes that impossible.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|sartre: Computers certainly can draw inferences from their opponents' hesitations, but we're not sure if anyone is actually trying this yet.|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: Error in judgement here. 3NT is wash&go, 5@C goes down|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|al9al9: finally...a non par result|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|sartre: Blue Chip Bridge does draw such inferences.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|sartre: In the closed room, WBridge5 is in 5D. Unfortunately, Jack missed a chance to pick up IMPs here in 3NT.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|mrdct: and i trust they aren't programmed to notice partner's hesitations|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h3|nt|sartre: Ethical standards in computer bridge appear to be pretty high, so no inferences from partner's hesitations.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h4|nt|sartre: Commentary from Estoril now a joint effort from Jack, Blue Chip Bridge, and Bridge Baron.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|al9al9: still better to be human than a computer|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SK6HA865D87642CJ9,ST43HT72DKQ3C8754,SQ7HK4DAT95CAKQT3,SAJ9852HQJ93DJC62|sv|n|nt|yuval10: it's 1:0 Italy after 4 boards|pg|| nt|szalay: they wd be happy with same result in next summer:-)|pg|| nt|scotty: Most play lead-director when vul - but S wants a @s lead. Maybe he was happy to get club lead and find a shift|pg|| nt|mich-b: would he double with say AKx ?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1 nt in N|pg|| nt|odysseus69: gping back to 3NT West then has to win 2nd diamond and switch to a heart. He also hd to pitch club 10|pg|| nt|gerben42: and a new leader|pg|| nt|ozdil: ruff with the 7 is better:)|pg|| nt|scotty: Ruffing with @h5 was a blunder, if he did that - E could have had 62 doubleton|pg|| nt|ozdil: he is lucky because E not have only 6 and small trump|pg|| nt|gerben42: possible slam here|pg|| nt|gerben42: 6@C anyone?|pg|| nt|mcphee: soft defence there I think|pg|| nt|desert: a close 4 @H here....diamonds have to be guessed....|pg|| nt|kista: Yes North should not have kept so many @c's|pg|| nt|mcphee: well I think S had to exit @S before a @C|pg|| mb|1C|nt|brolucius: England take a 3-IMP nibble out of the big initial lead.|pg|| nt|jtr: Nice stop Warned by the @h bid|pg|| nt|mich-b: A reasonable 6@D here for NS , on the @H finesse/guess|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roghog: 4 card @d, normal style by NS|pg|| nt|csimon: I am wowed by the accuracy of the Chinese cardplay!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: There's a lot of work to do in 6@C|pg|| mb|d|nt|gerben42: Nunes getting another good hand|pg|| nt|csimon: what a terrific match! I hope I get to commentate that one (are you listening, Roland?)|pg|| nt|mich-b: but perhaps West will get into the bidding to warn them...|pg|| mb|3S|nt|gerben42: any predictions? flat board?|pg|| nt|mich-b: A very nice hand for Jason here|pg|| nt|henryb: Suspect West will reassure them about the H position|pg|| nt|jallerton: it would be a goog play problem|pg|| nt|jallerton: good|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I guess the players have come in order to work|pg|| nt|gerben42: South Africa in BB made it|pg|| nt|mcphee: while he still retained the @H entry\|pg|| nt|kista: 2Nt jacoby by South|pg|| nt|kista: That's showing fit & 12+|pg|| nt|kista: N likely to bid 3@c to show bal hand|pg|| mb|4D|nt|mich-b: Both South's chose to open 1@S in 3rd seat , for pre-emptive and lead directing value|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I think they will reach 8 now|pg|| nt|mich-b: and even nicer to hear pd open ...|pg|| nt|mich-b: and support your 7 card suit ........|pg|| nt|swanson: 3 IMPs available here by bidding to 7NT.|pg|| nt|mich-b: getting better by the second|pg|| nt|henryb: 3N looks Okay also|pg|| nt|gerben42: also Egyptian ladies|pg|| nt|gerben42: Ladies USA1|pg|| nt|gerben42: and Ladies Japan |pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1@H = 8+ with spades or 12+|pg|| nt|mcphee: they must have some special agreements in place|pg|| mb|5D|nt|szalay: carefull defence beats 3N, but i think small @D lead by North is an option as well|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good afternoon to David Burn, live from Estoril|pg|| nt|yuval10: West surely happy to open his hand in 4th suit :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: hey David|pg|| nt|eggy: Hi david, how are your charges|pg|| nt|szalay: think South has Ax small in @D instead of A of @H+3card @D (and 2-2 @Ds for declarer)|pg|| nt|szalay: hi david|pg|| nt|yuval10: 4th seat that is|pg|| nt|dburn: Hello|pg|| nt|szalay: wd u lead small or high @D? |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Our operator is the one and only ritong! Henri Schweitzer from France (vugraph141). Welcome to you!|pg|| nt|dinos1: they play 4-cd majors|pg|| nt|lesniak: 2 diamonds - not everybody choice- but tipically to Jassem style|pg|| nt|scotty: I think it's good to have 3@s as a mixed raise here - and that would put a little pressure on E|pg|| nt|mich-b: 3@C presumably = fit for @D + @C values|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, unless for some strange reason the Italians bid a slam, yes. I don't think they will play in a part score.|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ok I'll risk flat|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hi david|pg|| nt|swanson: I don't see Fantoni-Nunes pushing to slam. The @C cue bid helps the defense with the lead.|pg|| nt|henryb: Hi David|pg|| nt|gerben42: Hi David|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I think David is here|pg|| nt|gerben42: don't know how long I'll be with you been getting disconnections|pg|| nt|dburn: Strictly speaking, wherever "here" is, I am here.|pg|| nt|dburn: But I am actually in Estoril, if that is what you mean :)|pg|| nt|swanson: We can follow your disconnects - Gerben42 turns red.|pg|| nt|henryb: You actually are there, and virtually here|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 3NT interesting on a heart lead|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South in 3NT at the other table|pg|| nt|mich-b: this should end the auction|pg|| nt|csimon: if right-siding was necessary, the Germans have managed to do that, but it doesn't matter here|pg|| mb|p|nt|eggy: You might have thought that Marcelo would have had this bid worked out|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, that was in evidence at the Olympiad. People were questioning their bidding then, but now the whole machine seems to be running smoothly. A top-class team in action.|pg|| nt|csimon: that last hand was sheer poetry, even if it was a lowly 1nt contract|pg|| nt|kista: Nunes was cursing himself for not passing 4@s|pg|| nt|gerben42: that's all I see so far|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: My charges seem to be involved in a number of close matches|pg|| nt|lesniak: uff|pg|| nt|scotty: well, 3@c may not be an agreement as much as a hope|pg|| nt|lesniak: sure|pg|| nt|mich-b: EW not on the same page here|pg|| nt|hedyg: this is 1 of those hands where you bid 2@c and when pd says no major you wish 3@c wasnt forcing|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: dont u think 1N was underbid?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: If declarer holds up the hearts, he's in big trouble|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not sure why El Ahmadi is checking back (if he is)|pg|| nt|szalay: it was natural, I bet|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Looks natural!|pg|| nt|roghog: Or showing his distribution?|pg|| nt|szalay: does anybody know the meaning of 1N? was it alerted dear operator?|pg|| nt|nickf: looks kind of heavy|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Like Mrs Giggins|pg|| nt|szalay: btw we play here 2way checkback: over 1@S 2@D FG, 2@C is either S/O in @D or invitational|pg|| nt|roghog: Oh, I see she's watching...|pg|| nt|csimon: same in the CR|pg|| nt|henryb: If west could keep quiet, 6D might have been bid|pg|| nt|jtr: Both maximum for their bids|pg|| nt|mich-b: But we cant argue with West's bid , of course|pg|| nt|csimon: I wonder what a 3@h bid would have foisted on Auken?|pg|| nt|henryb: Hard to expect HK in South with strong club opener|pg|| nt|mich-b: The play should be lightning speed here|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1NT = 11-13|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: 1@c is strong|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Usually quite wide-ranging in this sort of acution|pg|| nt|nickf: maybe 2@C is fsf ?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and 3@H? :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 5th suit more forcing?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Cue agreeing clubs|pg|| nt|nickf: shows a 3424 11 count|pg|| nt|szalay: big @C fit, empty @H...he knows partner has short @H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Nunes did hold up in hearts, and down he went with @CK as an entry for West|pg|| nt|roghog: ...and a 10 :-)|pg|| nt|frenske: short bidding!!!|pg|| nt|inquiry: shorter play... :-)|pg|| nt|mich-b: The play will be short anyway ...|pg|| nt|odysseus69: they like spectacular jumps - especially Jason- |pg|| nt|mich-b: Win , run the @HJ , and claim 11 ?|pg|| nt|scotty: N took an aggressive position in the other room pushing to game|pg|| nt|desert: declarer didnt guess diamonds succesfully in the OPen Room....so NS have a big chance here.....|pg|| pc|h5|nt|henryb: 4S will make from either side on an endplay against South|pg|| nt|jbgood: wrongsided now the spade contract|pg|| nt|csimon: maybe should look for 7nt - 2 imps is not creamcheese :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: or bagels|pg|| nt|csimon: or lox!|pg|| nt|csimon: mmm - I'm hungry :)|pg|| nt|stewball: i dont see why frankly|pg|| nt|aap00: now 2@s likely to go 1-2 down --> first imps|pg|| pc|h2|nt|lesniak: what about xx,xx,Qx,ADxxxxx??|pg|| nt|roghog: Same as Paz-Luis in the other room|pg|| nt|timb: He's Meredith's ex-husband and lives in Manila (for tax and other reasons)|pg|| nt|hedyg: and E cannot lead @d on this bidding|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The USA2 and Japan women didn't face any problems on boards 1-4. The score is 0-0!|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)) wd!|pg|| nt|roghog: Just gotta cross your fingers here, Fu :-)|pg|| nt|hedyg: luck KQ@c stiff|pg|| nt|davpro: There are 9 tricks to take...but the defense will force declarer to discard alot of @ds on those @cs|pg|| nt|Zmud99: like Sweden vs Portugal in Venice...0-0 after 4 boards..|pg|| nt|roghog: Spec asks what he's thinking about. "How did we get to this awful game!"|pg|| nt|csimon: wrong-sided the @s contract and that may be fatal!|pg|| nt|henryb: transfer and retransfer|pg|| nt|odysseus69: re-transfer I think|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 2@D = GF relay|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@d=0-8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no I dont|pg|| nt|dburn: Well...|pg|| nt|gerben42: and will now transfer partner to slam?|pg|| nt|jallerton: bad hand for relays, South needed to describe his hand|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes he has magic cards for partner|pg|| nt|bjacobs: One theory is that the player with a shortage has to show it and hand over captaincy|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Then his or her partner can look at the holding opposite the shortage and bid appropriately|pg|| nt|jallerton: That's a good theory|pg|| nt|jack2001: Very well bid by Jack. NS are kept out of 3N|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bjacobs: West's lead into declarer's suit is a trick most top players are aware of|pg|| nt|brolucius: West needed to know whether East held four hearts. Playing Support Doubles would have supplied the answer.|pg|| nt|brolucius: East would double with three hearts and raise directly with four hearts. This then allows West to compete on the basis of Total Trumps.|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, I prefer a X from E on 1@S|pg|| nt|brolucius: Presumably they don't play Support Doubles, or it would be automatic|pg|| nt|kista: some exchange of imps here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I have been in worse slams, much worse|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 6@C is pretty good|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's even better than 3NT|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|hedyg: i am told that Fu means good luck in Chinese! what a nice name:))|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Hard to read the blockage!|pg|| nt|nickf: the heart suit is interesting here|pg|| pc|d2|nt|scotty: I have always said (to Zia) these lead directors are dangerous, but he says I lead so badly, he has no choice|pg|| nt|davpro: Either E invented the bid right now or W forgot about it...|pg|| nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| nt|frenske: not vul sometimes its ok when 3@s will win|pg|| nt|mich-b: Maybe that hand is a 3@C opening |pg|| nt|roghog: 9 is the only blocker, so reasonable to hold up 3 rounds|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Seems correct|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Auction cries out for a heart lead, so not clear West has 5|pg|| nt|roghog: Specs think W can't have 10-9, or he'd lead one of them|pg|| nt|szalay: its not true|pg|| nt|szalay: from T9xxx T isnt the suggested lead|pg|| nt|nickf: australia played this in 5@C|pg|| nt|szalay: cause of blockage|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Not when South has 4 hearts|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our second match today (at 15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York) will be the first from the Venice Cup (women). China vs. England. Then we will add a bonus match from the Bermuda Bowl: ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: USA2 vs. New Zealand|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Did they make 5@C?|pg|| nt|nickf: no|pg|| nt|nickf: 1 off on a trump lead from east|pg|| nt|nickf: tough to find 11 winners|pg|| nt|cuttysark: I am told you can make 6@C double dummy! Not sure my source is reliable...|pg|| nt|davpro: or just claim 11 and let us move on :-)|pg|| nt|jtr: seems to be the plan|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|Zmud99: USA2 opened score vs Japan in Venice on board 5...1-0|pg|| nt|henryb: 3H might have gotten double all pass and -1100 on accurate defense|pg|| nt|ozdil: any contract can down one or more tricks..|pg|| nt|jallerton: 3NT is in trouble if @d are 5-3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South Africa bid and made 6@C against Netherlands|pg|| pc|c3|nt|yuval10: only 8 top tricks here|pg|| nt|vugraph141: hello everybody!00|pg|| nt|eggy: uncomfortable discards for Fantoni however|pg|| nt|yuval10: as i've been told other room played 3NT, making 11 tricks|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That was the end of it, was it not?|pg|| nt|scotty: N also had a chance for a number in the other room by doubling 2S - would be 500|pg|| nt|mcphee: easy to go wrong on the @D|pg|| nt|eggy: Probably will play clubs before making a decision in diamonds|pg|| nt|mcphee: once the A@C is located if becomes harder to play E for both aces|pg|| nt|eggy: and then may play for split Aces|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: D asking V some clarification on 3@h|pg|| nt|kista: Oh the theory of split Aces |pg|| nt|eggy: Of course, it is no statistical guide really|pg|| nt|mcphee: not sure how much faith should be placed on that theory |pg|| nt|eggy: but at least we have a plausible excuse for team mates|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: D thinking|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Another spade, and he is toast|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But looks like the spade lead was killing|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm told Fu means Good Luck in Chinese (Thanks). So heshould expect the @c to be nice...|pg|| nt|cuttysark: They led spade in the other room, but West switched to hearts when he got in|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@h is 16+|pg|| nt|henryb: 1H 19+ relay|pg|| nt|csimon: dodged the @h leads|pg|| nt|csimon: big swing coming up here|pg|| nt|gerben42: 4NT = even number of KC|pg|| nt|dburn: ...the brakes were on just in time|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I have decided not to explain since it is so obvious!|pg|| nt|mcphee: after declarer discovers E had led from weak @S rather than leading a @D from Q he may well guess correctly|pg|| pc|c9|nt|henryb: Next|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Must win now|pg|| nt|szalay: this is the common problem with 5 of minors: generally no 3 fast losers but isnt 11 tricks |pg|| nt|bjacobs: That's why I open 1@S|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Seems SAfrica made 6@C|pg|| nt|roghog: 5@h was attitude, so Sadek is trying to figure it out |pg|| nt|szalay: after 1st half of RR generally teams from the bottom are making fascinating slams...for them satke is lower:-)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: probably a diamond lead from East would have helped in 6@C|pg|| nt|szalay: stake|pg|| nt|cuttysark: He led a spade|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Egyptian audience are sure Sadek will get this right|pg|| nt|bjacobs: also an assist|pg|| nt|szalay: i like him, but doubt|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well, it's good that he's considering it|pg|| nt|cuttysark: West was on lead|pg|| nt|nickf: no you cant make 6C on a minor suit lead from East|pg|| nt|nickf: but you can make 5@C|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|mich-b: but I think there are many other hands where East needs to be able to bid @Cs naturally|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|aap00: or even -3: loosing 3@d, 2@c & 3@s|pg|| nt|gerben42: in team you might want to bid 5@C instead of 3NT with this @D holding|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: By returning a spade Castanheira will (eventually) set up Pessoa's 4th spade for the setting trick|pg|| pc|cT|nt|szalay: wow...real magican|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|nt|lesniak: Martens working on teorie thay open 2 clubs from 9 count|pg|| pc|h7|nt|scotty: I'm sure E invented it, and on this auction had no safety. Also, with the @dQ, a diamond lead would be fine most of the time|pg|| nt|scotty: Had to play @sK - tough - to get max|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|vugraph141: sorry|pg|| nt|yuval10: the lead was @d5|pg|| nt|vugraph141: fulvio tanking anyhow|pg|| nt|yuval10: on the other room, that is|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|mcphee: wow|pg|| pc|d4|nt|szalay: i doubt he ditches 2 @Ds...otherwise they take5|pg|| nt|csimon: nice defense|pg|| nt|aap00: back to -2 |pg|| pc|dQ|nt|cuttysark: Very well done|pg|| nt|szalay: i think Mr. Moubarak seat is in danger...Sadek for President!:-)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Now he needs to finesse diamond rather than spade...|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jallerton: Definitely, Gerben|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Argentina 2-0 up now. Penalty (Crespo), should not have been given of course|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|csimon: trump lead was essential for maximum set|pg|| nt|kista: very risky underlead|pg|| nt|eggy: although of course, El Kourdy's lead may have been the most neutral|pg|| pc|s4|nt|henryb: could be|pg|| pc|s7|nt|bjacobs: He can try them both|pg|| pc|sA|nt|szalay: 11 rather random Italian IMPs|pg|| nt|vugraph141: sorry again..|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|frenske: why not X on 2@s|pg|| nt|hedyg: you can find the players CCs on: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg|| pc|h6|nt|stewball: altho i'm not surprised Moss opened the bidding in the Open Room..2.5 honour tricks goes back to Culbertsons day|pg|| nt|scotty: Opening was good - if he doubled 2@s|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: the moment of truth|pg|| nt|eggy: Perhaps if he plays rubber bridge, he would play El Khourdy for being a good card holder|pg|| nt|Vugraph803: C thinking|pg|| nt|kista: If Sunit figured that E has underled the @s J he is likely to guess right|pg|| nt|eggy: EAst-West fidgetting?|pg|| nt|desert: can he guess that?!|pg|| pc|hT|nt|cuttysark: Declarer is happy now, play goes fast|pg|| nt|szalay: btw he gotta play right finesse yet|pg|| nt|szalay: but with this blockage he has time for @S first|pg|| nt|kista: He should because Dagher would have thrown the @sj instead of the !2|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|kista: well done|pg|| nt|mcphee: very good|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|nt|szalay: only losing line now is @S hook, @D pitch for @H|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Or he could even endplay East, if he trusts what's happened in hearts|pg|| nt|tsanders: alll that remains now is a defensive @s ruff|pg|| pc|d6|nt|dinos1: X wd show @h|pg|| nt|bjacobs: bingo!|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Spectatos point out the stylish endplay, exit with low heart.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Goodness me!!!!|pg|| nt|szalay: fascinating, really..best dummy play in Estoril I've seen so far|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Should he not cash @DK first?|pg|| nt|szalay: doesnt matter: he has @S entry to dummy|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|h8|nt|brolucius: I managed to find a Smith-Dhondy convention card (from the 2004 Olympiad) and it says they do NOT play Support Doubles. Surprising.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d9|nt|Zmud99: in open room they still playing board 5|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: Pretty!|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SJT754HA42DQ54C93,SAQ8HK6DAJT96CK84,S632HQ853DK872C65,SK9HJT97D3CAQJT72|sv|e|nt|sartre: Another push -- still the only score is an overtrick IMP by WB5 on deal 2.|pg|| mb|1C|nt|sartre: Could be a chance to pick up IMPs here. 6C looks pretty good with the HA onside.|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: slam chance here|pg|| mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: On a heart guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: need to get @h right|pg|| mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Maybe Jack South will underlead his @HA|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mrdct: that would be a clever move|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|sartre: WB5 takes out 3NT.|pg|| nt|sartre: WB5 uses simulations here to find the best contract based on what it knows.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: West has a raise now I think|pg|| mb|6C|nt|mrdct: west has enough to bid 6|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: WB5 finds it. Will he guess correctly in hearts?|pg|| mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: A normal lead on the auction|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mrdct: may choose to play the leader to not hold an ace as he didn't lead it|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: If you find a low heart, you need to have peeked|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|sartre: Jack bids 6C in the closed room as well and gets the HA lead to end the suspense.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|nt|sartre: WB5 needs to make the contract to earn another push.|pg|| nt|mrdct: although A in rho wouldn't be an indicated lead|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|h7|nt|mrdct: rho's 2nd suit i meant to say|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Walddk2: Jack South will play low smoothly when the jack is advanced (I hope)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: or not?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|sartre: Ah, Jack goes up with the Ace.|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|sartre: Little danger in ducking.|pg|| nt|al9al9: computer defense is weak|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SJT754HA42DQ54C93,SAQ8HK6DAJT96CK84,S632HQ853DK872C65,SK9HJT97D3CAQJT72|sv|e|nt|Zmud99: we will update scores asap|pg|| nt|scotty: Well, X might suggest 5-card @h|pg|| nt|dinos1: 4+ :)|pg|| nt|frenske: good 4|pg|| nt|timb: the australian women bid to 6@H here - failing for a 13 imp loss when South led @DA|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Lots of tricks for slam|pg|| nt|Zmud99: it seems that a revoke occured by the italians here|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh!|pg|| nt|Zmud99: thats explain +450|pg|| nt|hedyg: sry all 1@h was relay over 1@d|pg|| nt|roghog: No wonder these two have played throughout! What a joy this vugraph is :-)|pg|| nt|szalay: it was better play w/o K of @D: has countermeasure against crocodile T of @H|pg|| nt|cuttysark: That got the audience excited!|pg|| nt|odysseus69: maybe worried about time penalties if they dont finish first|pg|| nt|stewball: so first blood to Italy|pg|| nt|scotty: Last time I commentated on USA2 they lost about 80-0 - hope they do better this time!|pg|| nt|ozdil: This hand can be blody if E open 1 NT and EW go to 4 SP...|pg|| nt|kista: I concur. passing with both Majors will make the auction more difficult|pg|| nt|scotty: W should invite only facing 14-16|pg|| nt|scotty: N will pray for acceptance|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And now 3-0, another penalty!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: This is getting embarrassing for Sweden|pg|| mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: EW may not get room to investigate|pg|| nt|cuttysark: One tiny flaw|pg|| nt|timb: except if @DA wins the first trick :(|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 5@D now, and it's guessing from there|pg|| nt|hedyg: 5 losers|pg|| nt|gerben42: knowing EW they will get involved a lot here|pg|| nt|cuttysark: You can see why Eqypt are doing well|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp for system cards|pg|| nt|csimon: W can't bid too many @ss at this vul|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html for running scores in all 3 series|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1 spade from West|pg|| nt|mich-b: EW are playing weak 1NT , so 1@D it is|pg|| nt|jtr: nothing much to this hand either|pg|| nt|henryb: Is that really a strong NT??|pg|| nt|aap00: what about S?|pg|| mb|p|nt|scotty: There are 4 losers in 4@s, but eventually, declarer will pitch a red loser on the 4th club|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The Abbott (sitting East) would snap: "routine"|pg|| nt|mich-b: though , really, maybe the East hand is a weak NT?|pg|| mb|1D|nt|odysseus69: exciting - a bad but makeable slam|pg|| nt|brolucius: Thanks, Roland. That says the same, although the card has been updated in July 2005.|pg|| nt|csimon: 6@h is makeable, but not biddable it appears|pg|| nt|tsanders: I think S fudged on the nt opener because she didn't wish to open 1@d|pg|| nt|kista: If S had @h KQxxx instead of @c game would have been cold|pg|| nt|scotty: S swould double, if Zia - maybe even 31s!|pg|| nt|scotty: 3@s|pg|| nt|bjacobs: At least there's a genuine bidding battle on this hand|pg|| nt|gerben42: fire the coach I|pg|| nt|gerben42: I'd say|pg|| nt|mcphee: not an easy 4@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: 1@h from Fantoni |pg|| nt|Walddk2: Agree Roger. What a treat to be able to watch this live all over the world|pg|| nt|tsanders: that is if their range is 14-16|pg|| nt|brolucius: Heather Bakhshi tells me that Heather Dhondy plays Support Doubles with her and likes them. So perhaps it is Nicola who does not like the method. |pg|| nt|mich-b: NS would really like to get a plus score sooner or later|pg|| nt